Pin-seeker
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Always makes me laugh when utd fans get face on when other clubs splash the cash :rofl:
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Adi2Dassler
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Sssssshhh, that's almost like saying UTD's debt is a mortgage. And as we all know, you're in trouble if you have one of those
How the Glaziers bought United should be illegal.Borrowing to buy then lumping the debt onto a football club is madness.No way you'd be allowed to do that inn Germany or Italy or Spain.
But the point stands that no other club in England could weather the debt, pay it down, still win trophies,increase value and buy players.
i don't see why not. Many business are bought this way, the club hasn't been in any financial since it happened and they have massively increased sponsorship in the time. If they start taking huge dividends in 5 years instead if putting it back in the club then that's another story. But it could be that once it's cleared UTD will have unparalleled spending power (self generated).
Adi2Dassler
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Hence one of the main factors to our current economic disaster.
A person borrows money, buys something that holds zero debt and then burdens that thing with the debt created by borrowing?
Loud society is in debt for many reasons. Any business can fold, clearly the glaziers are good businessmen hence their previous wealth. If no business ever took chances there would be no growth. Our current plight has more to do with people over borrowing for their iPhones, sky contracts and dfs sofas whilst struggling to pair the luxury bills like a mortgage.
Pin-seeker
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So are you saying Mata is UTD's iPhone?
MadAdey
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No it smacks more of GIBBO has had a beer again and gone on Ebay..............:rofl:
Pin-seeker
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:rofl::rofl::thup:
I'm saying that UTD can afford Mata, or any other play they choose to but due to their self generated wealth as a business. It just went a little of topic. Is Mata overpriced, when you consider how Chelsea have used him this season, maybe. But would anyone have questioned £37m if he was signed for that last summer? Fellaini on the overhand appears to be a be overspend.
Pin-seeker
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£37m is obviously a huge sum,but at today's prices it's probably about right.
MadAdey
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IMO if someone outside of the Premier League had come in for him then I think they could have maybe got him for closer to £30M. But if Chelsea are going to let a top class player go to a rival then obviously they want to make sure it is worth it to them. A bit like Torres, was he worth £50M? Not a chance, but to Liverpool it compensated them enough to let the deal happen.
I agree, I also believe if UTD were in title chase it wouldn't of happened. Even of Chelsea are trying to say otherwise.
pbrown7582
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I need to be convinced about this signing! Yes good player but not what is missing at present, maybe with Rooney on verge of signing new contract then RVP may stay too but the holding midfield role and defensive needs a bit of attention ASAP. Maybe Shaw from soton will be a start.
Why not have Rooney as the holding midfielder, pretty sure he would be good their, giving you a spine of RVP, Mata, Rooney and A.N.Other at the back, then build left and right of that?
Kellfire
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Rooney is best up top. He can't tackle without losing the head, he wouldn't work long term in CM.
Kellfire
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A large part of our defensive problems is that they are under continual pressure. We don't hold onto the ball up top and we aren't scoring enough. We need some sort of spark up front. If that's Mata plus a returning Rooney and RvP, I don't know, but it needs to come from somewhere. We are so static and one dimensional and it's making us easy to defend against. That in turn sees us lose possession constantly.
MadAdey
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I think they have multiple problems. I think that they are not retaining the ball well enough, but when they do loose it they do not get it back quick enough. Under Fergie they did not let the other team have possession and when they did it was in their own half. But when they got the ball they made things happen. This team just looks average under the control of Moyes, does he need time, yes I think he does. But If I was a United fan I would be worried about panic buying to sort problems.
Dalgliesh went panic buying, paid over the odds to try for instant success and ended up spending £71M on Carroll, Downing and Henderson. Moyes has spent £63M on Mata and Felliani. My worry for United fans is what is going to be next? Rumours of a £300K a week deal to try and keep Rooney, not sure how much truth there is in that though, but on a 5 year deal that is £75M. HOw much have they given to Mata?
"That's Tom Cleverley. Don't bother passing to him. He's useless"
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I think Mata is a panic buy that could work for them
Kellfire
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Mata isn't a panic buy, imo. He's undoubtedly world class and when players of that calibre come up for sale, you push the boat out for them. Will he work out? No player is guaranteed.
Fellaini wasn't a panic buy either, it was just late because he was the back up if we didn't get others. It was a poor buy though.
Fellaini wasn't a panic buy either, it was just late because he was the back up if we didn't get others. It was a poor buy though.
