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[MadAdey]

Mata isn't a panic buy, imo. He's undoubtedly world class and when players of that calibre come up for sale, you push the boat out for them. Will he work out? No player is guaranteed.

Fellaini wasn't a panic buy either, it was just late because he was the back up if we didn't get others. It was a poor buy though.

That's the point I am making, that was a lot of money for Fellaini and he went for him after failing to get other players, sounds like a panic buy. Moyes is desperate to get into the Champions league and is hoping that signing Mata will give him the edge to grab 4th and is willing to pay big money to do it. Is it a panic buy, maybe not because he is a fantastic player and I would love him at Liverpool, but the price he paid says panic.

 

[Kellfire]

That's the point I am making, that was a lot of money for Fellaini and he went for him after failing to get other players, sounds like a panic buy. Moyes is desperate to get into the Champions league and is hoping that signing Mata will give him the edge to grab 4th and is willing to pay big money to do it. Is it a panic buy, maybe not because he is a fantastic player and I would love him at Liverpool, but the price he paid says panic.

Why do you keep mentioning Moyes?

He, like all PL managers, has no say over the price paid for a player. Ferguson was probably the last PL manager who had true input into that side of things.

 

[MadAdey]

Why do you keep mentioning Moyes?

He, like all PL managers, has no say over the price paid for a player. Ferguson was probably the last PL manager who had true input into that side of things.

Ok then swap Moyes for Manchester United then. Either way it is a lot of money to spend and I feel that in both Fellaini and Mata they have paid over the odds. If he does give them what they need and they get into the Champions league then the revenue from that will pay for it.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Why do you keep mentioning Moyes?

He, like all PL managers, has no say over the price paid for a player. Ferguson was probably the last PL manager who had true input into that side of things.

I think Wenger as a big say on everything at Arsenal. He's probably the only one now tho.

 

[Fish]

Mata isn't a panic buy, imo. He's undoubtedly world class and when players of that calibre come up for sale, you push the boat out for them. Will he work out? No player is guaranteed.

Personally I think he is a bit of a panic buy, the reason I believe that is, as much as I think he is an absolute great player and person, the most any other clubs (home & abroad) would have come in for him was around the 30m or slightly below mark. I also think that due to his personal terms (wages) jumping from 70k to 140k tells me that not much negotiating went on, they wanted him, and they got him, but on Chelsea and the players terms only!

I agree though, although more than proven in the prem, will he fit into Moyes tactics and the current united side or are they going to build around him slightly if there are some more comings & goings dependent on where they finish and make Europe or not?

They definitely need to build from the back first, its one thing scoring goals at one end but you've got to stop them going into the other one first :smirk:

 

[Papas1982]

Personally I think he is a bit of a panic buy, the reason I believe that is, as much as I think he is an absolute great player and person, the most any other clubs (home & abroad) would have come in for him was around the 30m or slightly below mark. I also think that due to his personal terms (wages) jumping from 70k to 140k tells me that not much negotiating went on, they wanted him, and they got him, but on Chelsea and the players terms only!

I agree though, although more than proven in the prem, will he fit into Moyes tactics and the current united side or are they going to build around him slightly if there are some more comings & goings dependent on where they finish and make Europe or not?

They definitely need to build from the back first, its one thing scoring goals at one end but you've got to stop them going into the other one first :smirk:

To be fair, in today's market I'd say he's easily worth those wages. And he may be overpriced but I think that's just typical January. Agree they need to strengthen at the back, that said if they have him, Rooney and RVP fot I don't think teams will be quite as gun oh as they are currently when facing the might Wellbwck..

 

[Slime]

Ok then swap Moyes for Manchester United then. Either way it is a lot of money to spend and I feel that in both Fellaini and Mata they have paid over the odds. If he does give them what they need and they get into the Champions league then the revenue from that will pay for it.

£37.1m is a lot of money, but he's a lot of player and could well be the difference between qualifying for the Champions League or not.
It's also a relative thing. Compared to some deals, he is expensive ........................ compared to others, (Fellaini £27.5m, Torres £50m, Carroll £35m), he's a steal.
I guess no-one will truly know until the end of the season but I don't think he was a panic buy at all.

Slime.

 

[Foxholer]

Arrogant, ignorant, obnoxious, utterly deplorable.

I think that describes fans of several high performing Clubs - and not just in England! It may be the preponderance of them, but the Chelsea fans I know seem to be the same. The Arsenal ones I knew in their magic period were pretty much the same! Newcastle ones are the same (without the success?), though it's lovely to just listen to (most of) them - bonnie ludd!

Those (of us) that follower clubs in the 'Promotion/Relegation League' seem to have a simpler focus - and can rationalise disappointment much easier.

Over paid, under-achieving, imported cheats that the fans have to pay a fortune to watch fall over

Succintly out! Though, again, it probably describes most of EPL. And it's only 'most' rather than 'all' because some of them aren't imported!