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Have confirmed the signing of Mata


I'm gutted he's gone to that lot, he's a great footballer that will improve them if the manager has anything about him and plays to his strengths.

Mata will be the 1st United player i've ever liked.
 
I'm gutted he's gone to that lot, he's a great footballer that will improve them if the manager has anything about him and plays to his strengths.

Mata will be the 1st United player i've ever liked.


One of the best in the prem - still can't believe they let him go and also can't believe a Spanish team didnt bid
 
Good signing for UTD question is will Moyes play him correctly. To be fair only 2 Spanish teams could afford him and they are not exactly short of players in that area

Will mean a revert to the formation they played with tevez Ronaldo and Rooney to fit all the big names in. Could be a master stroke, could be a kagawa.
 
Mourinho has said that he would like to manage Newcastle at some point. He saw Bobby Robson as his mentor, he likes Newcastle and the feeling is he would like to carry on Sir Bobbies legacy and try to get silverware for Newcastle that has eluded many a previous manager.

I'm not suggesting that this will happen this or next or even the season after, but there's a fair to middling chance it will happen.

Show me where this has been said PLEASE..........There is as much chance of that as 5under1and winning the League Cup....
 
Mata sitting behind Rooney and RVP would be lethal. Problem is they need someone to win the ball back to give to them first. For me this looks like where United are struggling the most, team:whistle:s are dominating them in midfield. That never happened under Fergie. Read on a couple of things that they are looking at Marchisio, would sort that problem out I think.

But hey with a stroke of luck they will all come down with the flu and be out for a month......
 
Will mean a revert to the formation they played with tevez Ronaldo and Rooney to fit all the big names in. Could be a master stroke, could be a kagawa.

Sat on the bench? Mata's way too good for that.
 
Sat on the bench? Mata's way too good for that.

Kagawa was making a mockery of Bayern whilst in Germany. He's record for Dortmund was outstanding. But they play him out of position. I'm not saying that he's better than mata, but if they stick him on the left and expect a typical wingers performed like has been expected of kagawa they'll get the same lethargic perfomances.
 
Kagawa was making a mockery of Bayern whilst in Germany. He's record for Dortmund was outstanding. But they play him out of position. I'm not saying that he's better than mata, but if they stick him on the left and expect a typical wingers performed like has been expected of kagawa they'll get the same lethargic perfomances.

What is wrong with playing people out of position? England did it for many years when they would put Gerrard on the left wing, or in a defensive midfield role. It does not work does it, because all the tabloids and the fans moaned that he did not play like he did for Liverpool.
 
What is wrong with playing people out of position? England did it for many years when they would put Gerrard on the left wing, or in a defensive midfield role. It does not work does it, because all the tabloids and the fans moaned that he did not play like he did for Liverpool.

Not sure if you're questioning me or agreeing?

i would say that with Gerarrd he was massively under used as a cm, but that was down to him being so good he could play anywhere across midfield. As to kagawa/mata. They're both no 10's they have to play in the hole. Anywhere else and their tendencies (defensive deficiencies show up).
 
Kagawa was making a mockery of Bayern whilst in Germany. He's record for Dortmund was outstanding. But they play him out of position. I'm not saying that he's better than mata, but if they stick him on the left and expect a typical wingers performed like has been expected of kagawa they'll get the same lethargic perfomances.

I agree with you re Kagawa but for some unknown reason Moyes can't see this.

United need a back 4 at least not Mata.

Imagine Moyes with money was some of the cries last summer! :rofl:
 
Not sure if you're questioning me or agreeing?

i would say that with Gerarrd he was massively under used as a cm, but that was down to him being so good he could play anywhere across midfield. As to kagawa/mata. They're both no 10's they have to play in the hole. Anywhere else and their tendencies (defensive deficiencies show up).

I was being a sarcastic about not playing players in their strongest position. I do agree with you that players are made to look mediocre by managers not playing them at their strongest.

Someone like Suarez is a good example of it. Look at him this season with him not being made to play as the striker always standing on the last defender. With Sturridge, Couthinio and Sterling around him he can go walk about and pick the ball making things happens.
 
The Mata deal looks like good business for both utd & Chelsea. He's a quality player,but £37m for a player that's surplus to requirements looks a good deal for Chelsea.
 
It is ironic that the accusations thrown at city, Chelsea, Liverpool, etc from the rag fans " that you bought your trophies" is now a bit hollow seeing as how they have just "knee jerked" and bought Mata with others to follow.

Is it not the case that Uniteds success created their wealth, whereas City and Chelseas wealth has created the success?
 
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