Man Deliberately Keys Aston Martin - Caught On Camera

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Liverpoolphil said:
Fine yes
Community service yes
But don't see it being a custodial sentence
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But if he can't pay the fine or the offer of something pathetic like £5 a week is offered and accepted then a custodial sentence to match the seriousness and costs involved of the crime should be very much considered IMO, more so if he has previous for crimes associated with what he has done!
 
Fish said:
But if he can't pay the fine or the offer of something pathetic like £5 a week is offered and accepted then a custodial sentence to match the seriousness and costs involved of the crime should be very much considered IMO, more so if he has previous for crimes associated with what he has done!
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:thup:
 
Then we would just need to build about 50 more prisons to cope with the influx in prison sentences for minor crimes

No one has been hurt - it's a petty pathetic crime but no harm to life
 
bobmac said:
And should be punished by a hefty £1000 + fine or a spell at her Majestys pleasure
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Once the guy is found guilty, the Magistrate will decide whereabouts on the scale the crime sits and apply the appropriate Sentence, taking into account the perpetrators circumstances, reasons and 'previous'.

With damage over £5000 but less than £10000, the 'starting point' is 12 weeks custody, possibly reduced to 6 or extended to 26.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/MCSG_web_-_October_2014.pdf
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Then we would just need to build about 50 more prisons to cope with the influx in prison sentences for minor crimes
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I dont think it would.
I think it would act as a deterrent.
There's too much talk about what to do with the criminal AFTER the crime has been committed.

Better to deter the person from committing the crime in the first place.

For example..
There was a group of children from the same estate who regularly missed school for no particular reason.
The parents were told on numerous occasions that there would be trouble if it continued.
Of course, the parents ignored all the warnings.
Then, the school wrote to the parents telling them that if their child missed school again for no reason, the parent responsible would spend a week in Jail.
The next morning, all the children were at school and no-one went to jail.

If the guy who keyed the car knew that if he was caught he would go to jail, he might not have done it in the first place.

Deterrent is better than punishment.
 
My car has been keyed. Not sure when it happened, but within the last couple of months probably.

Anyway.... it seems the perpetrator wrote his name on it! Which says much about the mentality and the chances of any punishment ever happening!
 
bobmac said:
I dont think it would.
I think it would act as a deterrent.
There's too much talk about what to do with the criminal AFTER the crime has been committed.

Better to deter the person from committing the crime in the first place.

For example..
There was a group of children from the same estate who regularly missed school for no particular reason.
The parents were told on numerous occasions that there would be trouble if it continued.
Of course, the parents ignored all the warnings.
Then, the school wrote to the parents telling them that if their child missed school again for no reason, the parent responsible would spend a week in Jail.
The next morning, all the children were at school and no-one went to jail.

If the guy who keyed the car knew that if he was caught he would go to jail, he might not have done it in the first place.

Deterrent is better than punishment.
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I think in theory you are spot on Bob

Just with the state of our prisons it's an empty threat at the moment and for some a couple of weeks in an open prison is a holiday
 
He'll appear in court, he'll plead guilty and be very contrite, will get someone to give him a character reference saying how he's a lovely family man and this is totally out of character etc. etc. He'll be fined something like £1000 and given some sort community order (suspended). Meantime the AM's driver will have his car repaired for £9k which his insurer will pay and this will help add to all of our car insurance premiums. Cheers moron.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I think in theory you are spot on Bob

Just with the state of our prisons it's an empty threat at the moment and for some a couple of weeks in an open prison is a holiday
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Why would he only do a couple of weeks in an open prison, yes the crime makes him Cat D but a 3 month sentence would mean at least 6 weeks before he was shipped out or a tag be considered or any release and he'd still be in a Cat B allocation prison during that time and I can tell you that 6 weeks in the Scrubs would be a deterrent.

These people that cause these crimes play the system because of the view you have expressed and feel they can justify their crimes as there is no deterrent to fear, its that which has to change!
 
Harsh sentences are not much of a deterrent, if they were there would be no murders in places where they have the death penalty.
Increasing the likelihood of being caught is the best deterrent.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Then we would just need to build about 50 more prisons to cope with the influx in prison sentences for minor crimes

No one has been hurt - it's a petty pathetic crime but no harm to life
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If your house was broken into and the burglar just walked around and took nothing, only damage is a door lock, no one was hurt, petty pathetic crime but no harm to life, still feel the same?
 
pauldj42 said:
If your house was broken into and the burglar just walked around and took nothing, only damage is a door lock, no one was hurt, petty pathetic crime but no harm to life, still feel the same?
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Yes why wouldn't I - no harm to life
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Yes why wouldn't I - no harm to life
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So no worrying that'll it happen again next time you leave the house or time spent wasted dealing with Police or that some scumbag thinks he can abuse your property after all the hard work you've done to earn it.?
 
pauldj42 said:
So no worrying that'll it happen again next time you leave the house or time spent wasted dealing with Police or that some scumbag thinks he can abuse your property after all the hard work you've done to earn it.?
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What exactly can I do ? No point spending life worrying about possessions
 
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