Man Deliberately Keys Aston Martin - Caught On Camera

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sawtooth said:
Bet your life that the Aston Martin driver parked without good cause in a parent and child bay, disabled spot or simply straddled two parking bays to avoid someone parking too close. Not heinous crimes by any stretch but a little more understandable I guess if thats what happened. Disclaimer: Parking improperly like above does not give anyone the right to damage someone elses property!!
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I find it amazing that nowadays people rush to make excuses for the criminal with no evidence of mitigating circumstances whatsoever. Very interesting that this post was full of possible excuses for the inexcusable criminal behaviour but absolutely no mention of feeling sorry for the car owner now faced with likely substantial costs to repair the damage. Isn't it time we started standing up for the victims of crime and stop making excuses for the criminals? If we don't, crime will just continue to escalate.
 
Sweep said:
I find it amazing that nowadays people rush to make excuses for the criminal with no evidence of mitigating circumstances whatsoever. Very interesting that this post was full of possible excuses for the inexcusable criminal behaviour but absolutely no mention of feeling sorry for the car owner now faced with likely substantial costs to repair the damage. Isn't it time we started standing up for the victims of crime and stop making excuses for the criminals? If we don't, crime will just continue to escalate.
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i dont think it was excuses people were making - dont think anyone justified the actions - it was about finding reasons
 
The guy will probably get a minor fine, say £100, and a slap on the wrist. Costs will be covered by insurance, and the owner will have to pay higher premiums when his insurance is next due.

There's no way the idiot is going to have to foot the bill for 9000.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
i dont think it was excuses people were making - dont think anyone justified the actions - it was about finding reasons
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Yes no one is defending the criminal here just theorizing what would motivate someone to carry out what appears to be a mindless act of vandalism.

You do need.context though and cant leap to conclusions from what you see on this video.

In an extreme case to prove a point, the week before maybe the Aston Martin driver keyed the other mans car and he was simply evening the score.

He is still in the wrong for retaliating by the way.

There are a thousand other possible reasons, maybe the man is sleeping with his wife? Who knows from looking at this video clip?
 
The have and have not attitude

They are running a TV trailer for a wealthy/poor people program and the girl at the end pushing a pram is then shown saying "just because I'm on benefits I don't see why I shouldn't have the finer things in life"

Well I do my sweet!
 
I love the way the telegraph describe the video as 'shocking'. Agree that it is criminal behaviour and not to be condoned, but with all the things that are going on in the world, if that is 'shocking' then you you really should get out a bit more.
 
chrisd said:
The have and have not attitude

They are running a TV trailer for a wealthy/poor people program and the girl at the end pushing a pram is then shown saying "just because I'm on benefits I don't see why I shouldn't have the finer things in life"

Well I do my sweet!
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Absolutely! Get out there and earn the luxuries in life .... oops forgot, us workers are supposed to pay for the lazy, feckless people...
 
Liverpoolphil said:
i dont think it was excuses people were making - dont think anyone justified the actions - it was about finding reasons
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Or... Maybe there is no reason. No mitigating circumstances. Maybe the criminal was just jealous. It's hard to accept, but there are actually people out there who do this kind of thing. What we do know is that the guy keyed the car, so why are we rushing to defend him with all kinds of reasons why a right minded person would do this? Maybe he is just a jealous criminal and I am afraid to say, that is the most likely reason these days.
But now we have to be so PC. The guy has his car keyed and suddenly we are coming up with all kind of reasons why he deserved it! How about, just for once, we give the benefit of the doubt to the victim and not the perpetrator? Wouldn't that be nice?
 
Sweep said:
Or... Maybe there is no reason. No mitigating circumstances. Maybe the criminal was just jealous. It's hard to accept, but there are actually people out there who do this kind of thing. What we do know is that the guy keyed the car, so why are we rushing to defend him with all kinds of reasons why a right minded person would do this? Maybe he is just a jealous criminal and I am afraid to say, that is the most likely reason these days.
But now we have to be so PC. The guy has his car keyed and suddenly we are coming up with all kind of reasons why he deserved it! How about, just for once, we give the benefit of the doubt to the victim and not the perpetrator? Wouldn't that be nice?
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:clap:
 
chrisd said:
The have and have not attitude

They are running a TV trailer for a wealthy/poor people program and the girl at the end pushing a pram is then shown saying "just because I'm on benefits I don't see why I shouldn't have the finer things in life"

Well I do my sweet!
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I'd want to know why she's on benefits Chris; if it's a lifestyle choice then I'm with you. But I'm also aware that there are people on benefits through no choice of their own and/or for genuine reason and how those people choose to spend the money is their business, not mine.

I will be watching to see into which category the young lady falls…….
 
Blue in Munich said:
I'd want to know why she's on benefits Chris; if it's a lifestyle choice then I'm with you. But I'm also aware that there are people on benefits through no choice of their own and/or for genuine reason and how those people choose to spend the money is their business, not mine.

I will be watching to see into which category the young lady falls…….
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She appears to be getting money, food, a free place to live and help bringing up a child I really don't see, unless they clarify, why she should have the finer things in life too!
 
chrisd said:
She appears to be getting money, food, a free place to live and help bringing up a child I really don't see, unless they clarify, why she should have the finer things in life too!
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You may well be right and I might ask to be allowed to join you in your righteous indignation but I will wait for the programme first…… ;)
 
Sweep said:
Or... Maybe there is no reason. No mitigating circumstances. Maybe the criminal was just jealous. It's hard to accept, but there are actually people out there who do this kind of thing. What we do know is that the guy keyed the car, so why are we rushing to defend him with all kinds of reasons why a right minded person would do this? Maybe he is just a jealous criminal and I am afraid to say, that is the most likely reason these days.
But now we have to be so PC. The guy has his car keyed and suddenly we are coming up with all kind of reasons why he deserved it! How about, just for once, we give the benefit of the doubt to the victim and not the perpetrator? Wouldn't that be nice?
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Again i dont think one person has rushed to defend him - finding a reason for him to do is not defending him - there is a clear difference. Nor has anyone said the driver "deserved" it
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Again i dont think one person has rushed to defend him - finding a reason for him to do is not defending him - there is a clear difference. Nor has anyone said the driver "deserved" it
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I take your point, but I think the phrase "bet your life the Aston Martin Driver..." before listing all manner of parking offences he must be guilty of, gives the impression that the Aston Martin owner must have deserved it. In later posts he even becomes a possible adulterer! Maybe, instead of jumping to conclusions, we should go with what we know.
Personally, I wouldn't "bet my life" that the Aston owner did anything wrong at all. Contrary to popular belief, owning a decent car does not make you anti social. Keying a posh car though does.
 
Sweep said:
I take your point, but I think the phrase "bet your life the Aston Martin Driver..." before listing all manner of parking offences he must be guilty of, gives the impression that the Aston Martin owner must have deserved it. In later posts he even becomes a possible adulterer! Maybe, instead of jumping to conclusions, we should go with what we know.
Personally, I wouldn't "bet my life" that the Aston owner did anything wrong at all. Contrary to popular belief, owning a decent car does not make you anti social. Keying a posh car though does.
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Again you appear to be making conclusions that arent there

There is a difference between someone giving a reason as to why an incident happens as opposed to that reason suggesting he deserves it

Lots of conclusions have been jumped to on both parties

Bu no one has tried to "justify" the actions of the car keying the car nor has anyone suggested the car "deserved" being keyed even if it was poorly parked etc
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Again you appear to be making conclusions that arent there

There is a difference between someone giving a reason as to why an incident happens as opposed to that reason suggesting he deserves it

Lots of conclusions have been jumped to on both parties

Bu no one has tried to "justify" the actions of the car keying the car nor has anyone suggested the car "deserved" being keyed even if it was poorly parked etc
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I am the one making conclusions??? It's not me that came up with all possible reasons why this was done. I advocated going with what we know. The car was keyed and the Aston driver is a victim of a crime. As far as I can see, no conclusions have been jumped to on behalf of the Aston driver. We know, beyond any doubt he is a victim of crime.
 
Sweep said:
I am the one making conclusions??? It's not me that came up with all possible reasons why this was done. I advocated going with what we know. The car was keyed and the Aston driver is a victim of a crime. As far as I can see, no conclusions have been jumped to on behalf of the Aston driver. We know, beyond any doubt he is a victim of crime.
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Hear Hear. Makes no difference if it's an Aston Martin or battered up Metro or Skoda. It is still criminal damage. It really is as simple as that. Whatever the motives of the guy caught on camera, or the background of the AM driver, it doesn't make a jot of difference. A crime has been committed.
 
Sweep said:
I am the one making conclusions??? It's not me that came up with all possible reasons why this was done. I advocated going with what we know. The car was keyed and the Aston driver is a victim of a crime. As far as I can see, no conclusions have been jumped to on behalf of the Aston driver. We know, beyond any doubt he is a victim of crime.
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No one has said he isn't a victim of a crime

People just gave reasons why someone might do something like this - that's all , not justifying any actions or suggesting the Aston Martin driver deserved etc

It's a forum and it created a discussion point with people wondering what would cause someone to do something like this - that's all
 
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