Male privilege

[PhilTheFragger]

She couldn't be a mod on a golf forum.

Yes she could, if she wanted to and Mike was happy to appoint her.btw you think I’m a tough cookie ? You do not want Mrs Fragger anywhere near here 😱😱😱

 

[Imurg]

Yes she could, if she wanted to and Mike was happy to appoint her.btw you think I’m a tough cookie ? You do not want Mrs Fragger anywhere near here 😱😱😱

She couldn't change a light bulb without a set of steps....:thup:

 

[User20205]

Clearly different people have different views on what equates to male privilege.

Agreed. It not something I’ve ever thought about until recently. For me it’s not necessarily about opportunities, it’s about an accepted set of behaviours & a way of acting. There are certain ways of behaving and associated actions available only to blokes IMO & if a women subscribes to them, she’s labelled ‘one of the lads’

 

[Deleted member 21784]

how Do you define privilege, to me a privilege is something you are granted , over and above another person.

Many things that are seen as privileges are simply the result of generations of traditional gender roles which are gradually becoming less defined as time passes.
For instance it used to be that the women stayed home to look after the kids, the man went to work (gender roles) . But then the man would often go to the pub with his mates, while the woman stayed home ( privilege).(simplistic illustration).

So regarding modern male privilege, what can I do that my wife can’t do ( if she wanted to), I’m struggling to find anything tbh. I have 3 daughters aged 24.22 & 20 and they all recognise the opportunities open to them are so much greater than when their mum was their age, they do not feel inferior to men in any way.

That’s not to say that there aren’t inequalities that need addressing regarding pay, casual and overt sexism etc but I’m not sure that male privilege exists in my world.

Now it certainly does exist in some cultures that have been imported into the uk over the last 100 years, but that’s a different thread.

My company does the worst “positive discrimination”. Actively promote from areas that are under represented in certain fields. Means we often get people who would fly in the field overlooked and creates resentment. Our managing director says he wants 50% women respesentation in all grades but doesn’t seem to understand that in history ladies haven’t applied for the job as much so haven’t gotten through.. so where do we promote from to get this 50% . What we will see is direct recruits into higher positions which will then create managers with poor experience in the field just to fill quoters. Then staff won’t respect the manager. How about just promote or recruit who’s best for the job? Regardless of race. Sex. Sexual preference , religion..

 

[SocketRocket]

My company does the worst “positive discrimination”. Actively promote from areas that are under represented in certain fields. Means we often get people who would fly in the field overlooked and creates resentment. Our managing director says he wants 50% women respesentation in all grades but doesn’t seem to understand that in history ladies haven’t applied for the job as much so haven’t gotten through.. so where do we promote from to get this 50% . What we will see is direct recruits into higher positions which will then create managers with poor experience in the field just to fill quoters. Then staff won’t respect the manager. How about just promote or recruit who’s best for the job? Regardless of race. Sex. Sexual preference , religion..

Is the correct answer but in these current times where those prepared to scream until they are sick get the focus there is more weight put on your orientation than your ability.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Is the correct answer but in these current times where those prepared to scream until they are sick get the focus there is more weight put on your orientation than your ability.

exactly. sick of that way of the world.. 2 year ago I went for a job thats high failure rate.. failed on one part.. someone on another line passed same time being rubbish (worse) at that same part and still opening admits they are poor at it.. lots of people told me to put in a complaint as its unfair.. instead kept my head down.. got the job again and rather than be labeled as a trouble maker and shunted to another line where I might be unhappy they kept me where I already worked and know everyone.

 

[PatriciaOrozco]

Both male and female privileges exist. And they should exist! We are different. Geez.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Both male and female privileges exist. And they should exist! We are different. Geez.

True. Don't know how many time I've seen women use the mens toilets when theirs are busy. If a man used the women's toilets he would probably get arrested.

 

[Deleted member 18645]

One of my friends was playing in a mixed event last week and walked up to the ladies' tee on the 18th instead of walking back to the mens and claimed he was identifying as cross-gender for the rest of the round. He was having a laugh but the two of the women in the fourball went totally apesiht over it. They love equality when it suits them.....

 

[Lord Tyrion]

One of my friends was playing in a mixed event last week and walked up to the ladies' tee on the 18th instead of walking back to the mens and claimed he was identifying as cross-gender for the rest of the round. He was having a laugh but the two of the women in the fourball went totally apesiht over it. They love equality when it suits them.....

A Labour party member did that as a joke recently as his local party had an all female list requirement. He stated that he identified as a woman on Fridays, handily the day of the selection process. They had to include him but shortly after he was suspended from the party 😞. They didn't see the funny side.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Being allowed to go into the clubhouse when the ladies are having an open competition

Though in general I don't stay very long after the first "what are you doing here - most men couldn't put up with a clubhouse full of women"

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Some form of Male privilege going on in The Chase a couple of weeks back - just not quite sure what...with the not quite 'divine' Joan being the odd one out...

 

[Blue in Munich]

And it would appear there's female privilege;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44287094

 

[londonlewis]

And it would appear there's female privilege;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44287094

I think examples like this are what are never mentioned when male privilege comes up. And there are others.

Earlier it was mentioned that men don't receive comments on the clothes they wear and are not told to smile by strangers. Two examples, so how about two reverse examples;
Women aren't told to 'man up' and it's socially acceptable for them to cry (I don't think the same thing can often be said for men - of course there are examples where it's socially acceptable for a man to cry).

There was a documentary on strippers where they interviewed male and female strippers. The females said that the overwhelming majority of customers were polite, respected boundaries and appreciated the art of stripping. The male strippers said that a large proportion of customers were the absolute opposite and would grab, grope and not respect the performer.

There's inequalities everywhere.

 

[Hacker Khan]

So just to check, on one side we have centuries of males holding the majority of religious, economic and political power in society and on the other we have the fact that occasionally girls go into mens bogs, sometimes male strippers do not get 'respected' and women are not told to man up. Well, that's balanced it all out then, not sure what women are complaining about.....

 

[londonlewis]

So just to check, on one side we have centuries of males holding the majority of religious, economic and political power in society and on the other we have the fact that occasionally girls go into mens bogs, sometimes male strippers do not get 'respected' and women are not told to man up. Well, that's balanced it all out then, not sure what women are complaining about.....

We are talking about modern era and today's world.
I've never denied that male privilege didn't exist. I am questioning whether it does now.

Have women alive today suffered because of things that happend over a century ago? And have new laws or changes to society not been made since the 1800s?
The examples I gave above were in line with examples that were gave earlier in the thread Hacker, but thanks for wading in on things.