Luiz Suarez

[In_The_Rough]

4 games this season, 25 next. Some would have.

I'm not trying to move this conversation, but isn't it a farce, all this "the referee has dealt with it at the time" lark.

Just because a ref gives a foul, yellow card etc, it is seen as dealt with and the FA can't act. There have been some horrendous decisions that have not been punished due to this, and it is spectacularly wrong. Mcmanaman's tackle a few weeks ago, Rooney's elbow at Wigan the other year, Aguero's last week.

I know it is hard to say where the line should be with retrospective refereeing, but if it is gross violent conduct (as today) players should be banned. The whole thing is a farce.

I know the ref hasn't seen today's, so he will be banned, but Defoe does the same thing (not as vicious) and the ref sees it years ago, and he only gets a booking.

I agree to a part what you are saying. However bad tackles, fights, elbows whatever have always happened and always will and should be punished with the usual 3 or 4 game bans when a red card is given for those type a challenges not condoning it but it is part and parcel of the game. What LS has done today goes way beyond normal occurances on a football pitch it is a really low and shameful act. Yes the rules are stupid at times and Defoe should have been dealt with more than he was. I think LS should be looking at a 10 game ban minimum and the biggest fine they can land him with

 

[Birchy]

4 games this season, 25 next. Some would have.

I'm not trying to move this conversation, but isn't it a farce, all this "the referee has dealt with it at the time" lark.

Just because a ref gives a foul, yellow card etc, it is seen as dealt with and the FA can't act. There have been some horrendous decisions that have not been punished due to this, and it is spectacularly wrong. Mcmanaman's tackle a few weeks ago, Rooney's elbow at Wigan the other year, Aguero's last week.

I know it is hard to say where the line should be with retrospective refereeing, but if it is gross violent conduct (as today) players should be banned. The whole thing is a farce.

I know the ref hasn't seen today's, so he will be banned, but Defoe does the same thing (not as vicious) and the ref sees it years ago, and he only gets a booking.

This is where the need a panel to sit every Tuesday after the weeks games have been completed to review the incidents that may need further action. A warning system followed by game bans etc etc, so many games for a stamp then so many for headbutt etc. Previous record should be taken into account and players should be summoned to the FA to plead their case and explain their actions.

They do it in rugby league and that nowhere near the same world as football money wise. There is clear transparency there and player still do mad stuff but nobody gets away with anything they shouldnt.

 

[Liverbirdie]

This is where the need a panel to sit every Tuesday after the weeks games have been completed to review the incidents that may need further action. A warning system followed by game bans etc etc, so many games for a stamp then so many for headbutt etc. Previous record should be taken into account and players should be summoned to the FA to plead their case and explain their actions.

They do it in rugby league and that nowhere near the same world as football money wise. There is clear transparency there and player still do mad stuff but nobody gets away with anything they shouldnt.

Exactly, a few days later, to let the dust settle.

It's not fair to have to let them look through Bolton matches again though Birchy - that's just cruel.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Maybe 19.... No wait 20 :whoo: :whoo: :cheers:

Think your hoping a bit there but anything under 8 game ban and he has got off light I reckon

 

[Liverbirdie]

I agree to a part what you are saying. However bad tackles, fights, elbows whatever have always happened and always will and should be punished with the usual 3 or 4 game bans when a red card is given for those type a challenges not condoning it but it is part and parcel of the game. What LS has done today goes way beyond normal occurances on a football pitch it is a really low and shameful act. Yes the rules are stupid at times and Defoe should have been dealt with more than he was. I think LS should be looking at a 10 game ban minimum and the biggest fine they can land him with

I couldn't argue too much, but if someone gets banned for 10 games for that, but only 8 for rascism - the FA would get so much stick. It would also be 4 more than John Terry's for rascism also.

 

[Blue in Munich]

I'm afraid I would refute that and present John Terry esq as exhibit A.

BlueinMunich - If Chelsea miss out on the top 4 by a point you surely can't blame Suarez alone!!?

Do tell me when John Terry has ever bitten anyone, or worse?

As for blaming Suarez, remind me who executed a blatant push on Ramires to make space for the equaliser at Stamford Bridge, Uruguayan chap, likes spitting at people & using the N word....

 

[Liverbirdie]

I couldn't argue too much, but if someone gets banned for 10 games for that, but only 8 for rascism - the FA would get so much stick. It would also be 4 more than John Terry's for rascism also.

Believe it or not most LFC fans I've spoke to since the match and on Facebook, are ashamed about this.

 

[In_The_Rough]

I couldn't argue too much, but if someone gets banned for 10 games for that, but only 8 for rascism - the FA would get so much stick. It would also be 4 more than John Terry's for rascism also.

The JT thing was a farce anyway, the fact he got found not Guilty in a court of law did not really help matters. The fact LS has already been banned for 8 games for racism may well count against him here as it another serious breach he has committed and they could well look to nail him this time. May well be time to move him on as he is proving to be more trouble than anyone could have imagined.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Do tell me when John Terry has ever bitten anyone, or worse?

As for blaming Suarez, remind me who executed a blatant push on Ramires to make space for the equaliser at Stamford Bridge, Uruguayan chap, likes spitting at people & using the N word....

Come on blue, give Suarez stick for what he's done (fair enough), and for cheating but don't be holier than thou. Drogba was equally as bad as a cheat.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Come on blue, give Suarez stick for what he's done (fair enough), and for cheating but don't be holier than thou. Drogba was equally as bad as a cheat.

Didn't think I'd defended Drogba in this thread, hadn't even seen his name mentioned until you brought him up. What's he got to do with biting people then?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Oooohhh, might me time for an early night.....(yawns).

Tin hat on.

 

[One Planer]

Come on blue, give Suarez stick for what he's done (fair enough), and for cheating but don't be holier than thou. Drogba was equally as bad as a cheat.

Somebody said earlier in the thread about being whiter than white before throwing mud.

.... And I agree with it.

Most, if not all clubs in the Premier League have a cheat of some kind in the squad, and I include Stoke in that statement.

Some have more than one too. Be it Suarez, Terry, Bale, whoever. All teams have cheats.

Best to keep the mud slinging to a minimum IMO.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Didn't think I'd defended Drogba in this thread, hadn't even seen his name mentioned until you brought him up. What's he got to do with biting people then?

Nothing, but you brought up Suarez pushing someone to gain an advantage and a goal,it goes on 50 times a game.

 

[Birchy]

Exactly, a few days later, to let the dust settle.

It's not fair to have to let them look through Bolton matches again though Birchy - that's just cruel.

Well they wont have to until next season after we steamroller the playoffs

 

[NWJocko]

Do tell me when John Terry has ever bitten anyone, or worse?

As for blaming Suarez, remind me who executed a blatant push on Ramires to make space for the equaliser at Stamford Bridge, Uruguayan chap, likes spitting at people & using the N word....

Do you see the irony in you're post? You really going down the racist route to defend Terry!!??

I am not defending Suarez in any way, let me make that clear.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Nothing, but you brought up Suarez pushing someone to gain an advantage and a goal,it goes on 50 times a game.

Yes I did, brought up specifically in response to a comment about could we blame Suarez for costing Chelsea enough points for missing out on a place in Europe, and between that push and today's incident we are 4 points worse off. It wasn't to claim that he was any worse than others in that respect, Drogba included. And in fairness, I suppose we shouldn't blame Suarez, we should blame the inept cretins with the whistles.

 

[Joff]

Just can't get enough. Love him.

 

[NWJocko]

Yes I did, brought up specifically in response to a comment about could we blame Suarez for costing Chelsea enough points for missing out on a place in Europe, and between that push and today's incident we are 4 points worse off. It wasn't to claim that he was any worse than others in that respect, Drogba included. And in fairness, I suppose we shouldn't blame Suarez, we should blame the inept cretins with the whistles.

So Chelsea players/management are blameless in not getting enough points to finish in the top 4? It is 100% down to Suarez?

 

[Slime]

I couldn't argue too much, but if someone gets banned for 10 games for that, but only 8 for rascism - the FA would get so much stick. It would also be 4 more than John Terry's for rascism also.

If somebody racially abused me, I'd laugh & walk away.
If somebody bit me, I wouldn't laugh and I wouldn't walk away!

Slime.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Do you see the irony in you're post? You really going down the racist route to defend Terry!!??

I am not defending Suarez in any way, let me make that clear.

I asked when John Terry had bitten anyone. I included a description from which some people might recognise the man at the centre of this thread based on his previous behaviour. I'm not going down the racist route to defend Terry. If you choose to draw that conclusion from the post that is down to you, it certainly isn't what I said.