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Luis Suárez.... a disgrace

Dodger said:
Anyone would think you possibly support Liverpool.

Assault,do me a favour eh?

Liverpool F.C....offended by everything ashamed of nothing.
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Dodger, what morally superior, whiter than white footy team do you support? You are obviously the font of all knowledge and have never made a mistake in your life. Do you want some red sauce with that chip on your shoulder, against LFC? A well balanced argument in any of your comments, no! Is it even worth entering into sensible conversation, with such a myopic view.

Anyway, on to other things.

Initially very dissappointed that Luis didn't shake his hand, after some more replays, not sure if the hand was on offer from Evra anyway, but still should have shaken his hand. Evra made the most of it to the following camera though.

We were crap, Man U not much better. Downing took absolutely no responsibility at all. Ferdinands tackle wasn't a foul. Well handled by the ref, to be honest. Johnstons marking for rooneys first was totally wrong side.

Ferguson, people in glass houses. You forgave Cantona, why can't we. I'd also love to see the comments you said years ago were you basically called the Italian or Portuguese nation a bunch of cheats.

Does anyone want to finish fourth, AVB and Kenny's criticism this week, Wengers the other week. The sky football generation buying into Sky's agenda. Football is really starting to do my head in.

Anyway, off to freeze my bits off in Whitby, so can escape this asylum and get some golf in, hopefully. Toodle pip for a week.
 
Oh yes, here it is:-

Ferguson:When an Italian says it's pasta I check under the sauce to make sure. They are innovators of the smokescreen.

Says it all really, hypocrite. But then again footy is full of them now, yes even including my own club.
 
For what reason did Suarez HAVE to shake his hand yesterday??
 
Stuart_C said:
For what reason did Suarez HAVE to shake his hand yesterday??
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Because it was offered........?

Two ways of looking at this....

Everyone bar Liverpool says Suarez was wrong - I think that's something most can agree with.

So either everyone is out to get Liverpool
or
Suarez was in the wrong....
 
It takes two to tango... No one from either club [especially the managers] have exactly 'done the right thing'...

How about the FA 'punishing' BOTH clubs for bringing game into disrepute...

I would suggest that their fixtures don't get played for next two seasons and the points get split...
ie They each get awarded one point for each game...
 
Imurg said:
Because it was offered........?

Two ways of looking at this....

Everyone bar Liverpool says Suarez was wrong - I think that's something most can agree with.

So either everyone is out to get Liverpool
or
Suarez was in the wrong....
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And he is well within his rights not to shake his hand.

Morally and for the media's sake maybe he should've but I fully back him for not doing so.

If this was an English player do you think he would be getting the same amount of stick as Suarez?
Because I can remember Wayne bridge being supported by the press when he refused John Terry's hand.

Xenophobic media out in force on this occasion.
 
The Bridge/Terry thing was a completely different kettle of fish.
No laws had been broken, it was a thing between (previously) 2 friends.

If Terry had called Bridge by an inflamatory/racist name then there would have been a backlash - certainly.
 
Imurg said:
The Bridge/Terry thing was a completely different kettle of fish.
No laws had been broken, it was a thing between (previously) 2 friends.

If Terry had called Bridge by an inflamatory/racist name then there would have been a backlash - certainly.
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Shaking hands before is allegedly about respect on the pitch, regardless of what's gone before it.
 
I honestly don't believe that the word "respect" can be used with relation to Football.
There's been little respect in the game for years.
Pound to a penny they're only doing it because the Premier League say they have to..........Tell me I'm wrong.
Would they do it if they didn't have to?
 
Imurg said:
The Bridge/Terry thing was a completely different kettle of fish.
No laws had been broken, it was a thing between (previously) 2 friends.

If Terry had called Bridge by an inflamatory/racist name then there would have been a backlash - certainly.
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Imurg,I wouldn't waste my time trying to spell it out,it's not just Dalglish and his team that think racism isn't a serious subject it would appear.
 
I live on merseyside( no not in liverpool) and i'm not a scouser but listen to the local bbc radio and Nealy every one who comes on is saying he did nothing wrong and he shouldn't have shook his hand everyone is out to get LFC,its a thou they are being brainwashed by comments from the club,the only one with a chip on their shoulders is the scousers.
 
Taking all the Suarez/ evra thing out of it. Picture the scenario:-

Lets just say 4-5 games into the season a dirty player intentionally does someone off the ball, very late etc, and that lad breaks his leg. 7-8 months later that lad is fit again and the same two teams and players play each other. Would you expect the same player to shake his hand????

The handshakes before a game are in the main insincere, which is the worst thing, sometimes national team mates show some warmth, or ex team mates and foreigners from the same country. Outside of that it is a 1/4 second hand shake without any respect/sincerity.

After the game, as others have stated its different with a lot of respect on the main and sincerity.

It is like 1 minute silences, ok for 90% of the time, but 10% of the time it gives idiots the stage to stand out. The 1 minute clapping does not do this.

I think it is the same with the handshakes, it gives people a stage they would not normally have.

Luis still should have shook his hand though, for his and the clubs sake, in my opinion.
 
If Suarez felt wrongly judged then he should blame the FA, not Evra.

Evra actually gave evidence to the FA saying he didn't believe Suarez was a racist. Evra has kept quiet on the issue ever since, not uttered a single word. The opposite to Suarez and Liverpool.

He offered his hand and Suarez rejected it. The chance to start to mend bridges was there and Suarez showed his true colours once again. The guy is just running Liverpool's name through the mud again and again. Through their earlier arrogance and bad handling, Liverpool have put themselves in a position where they can't do anything but no comment or defend Suarez, which is all down to Dalglish. I've been watching football for years and seeing Dalglish lie and bluff his way through that interview was beyond laughable and the saddest sight.

Suarez isn't worth it. He goes out to cheat and con his way through a game. His goal and assist rate is average at best compared to other top forwards/attackers.

Liverpool and Dalglish have let a horrible cretin become bigger than the club.
 
Finally Dalglish does something right. Fair play to him for swallowing his pride and making the little gobshite apologise. I don't believe a word Suarez says but at least Liverpool have clamped down on him and won't allow him carte blanche to do what he pleases.
 
Liverpool striker Luis Suarez has today issued the following apology:

"I have spoken with the Manager since the game at Old Trafford and I realise I got things wrong.

"I've not only let him down, but also the Club and what it stands for and I'm sorry. I made a mistake and I regret what happened.

"I should have shaken Patrice Evra's hand before the game and I want to apologise for my actions.

"I would like to put this whole issue behind me and concentrate on playing football."

taken from lfc website
 
A1ex said:
If Suarez felt wrongly judged then he should blame the FA, not Evra.

Evra actually gave evidence to the FA saying he didn't believe Suarez was a racist. Evra has kept quiet on the issue ever since, not uttered a single word. The opposite to Suarez and Liverpool.

He offered his hand and Suarez rejected it. The chance to start to mend bridges was there and Suarez showed his true colours once again. The guy is just running Liverpool's name through the mud again and again. Through their earlier arrogance and bad handling, Liverpool have put themselves in a position where they can't do anything but no comment or defend Suarez, which is all down to Dalglish. I've been watching football for years and seeing Dalglish lie and bluff his way through that interview was beyond laughable and the saddest sight.

Suarez isn't worth it. He goes out to cheat and con his way through a game. His goal and assist rate is average at best compared to other top forwards/attackers.

Liverpool and Dalglish have let a horrible cretin become bigger than the club.
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A fair summary to my mind.
 
2 teams shouldn't have shook hands before the match like chelsea v qpr a few weeks back. wouldn't have hurt suarez to hold his hand out but would you shake the hand of some one you didnt like? it wouldn't have been as big a deal by everyone if evra hadn't made a big deal of it, again.
what suarez said to evra wasn't racist imo and its not half as bad as whats dished out to to players week in and week out about their children/ parents/ wives. evra needs to grow a set, his behaviour sickens me- world cup, stamford bridge, after the final whistle and so on and so on.
suarez is no saint and needs to wise up, dalglish and the club have backed him to the hilt, suarez has to pay them back now.
also ferguson is the biggest hypocrite in history, saying he should be kicked out of the club! hello? what about cantona, keane and neville?! he gave the armband ffs after they hit the headlines
 
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