leaney
Challenge Tour Pro
Good shooting fella
low/high handicap clubs
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HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Because off 28 he is almost certainly not in the same ball striking league as Lee Westwood (who btw uses more forgiving clubs than the OP) and yet is using a strong player's iron; so his move to the muscle backs, unless he drives like a monkey falling out of a tree, and putts like a blind man in an electric chair, is going to be hugely detrimental over changing from his BBs - which were maybe just the wrong GI club - to something more suitable like a JPX800 HD, or a K15, or G20, or S3 Max.
You know that though I'm sure, not sure why you asked 'why'?
BROOKIE
Challenge Tour Pro
Golfs a very strange game,in my opinion when everythings going wrong,and your at the point you dont even want to play,it suddenly all takes shape and your hitting it like a pro,....new shiny's new day,keep up the good work.
chris661
Money List Winner
Because nothing you say there makes any sense. Of course he isnt in the same league as Westwood at ballstriking but as we are playing this game for fun you can use whatever gives you the most enjoyment and makes you happy.
All this talk of GI and SGI baffles me, the average handicap has stayed relatively stable even though there are hybrids, super dooper big drivers, high launch this, drop and stop that. Surely that is not all down to courses getting longer or are we just believing the advertising hype that we need the "easy" option?
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
LOL. Ok mate, whatever, I'm sure you can smash a Wilson FG62 just as well as you could a Ping G20, but for just about everyone that's not the case.
chris661
Money List Winner
My point is that everyone can BUT the "easy" option of high launch clubs super MOI etc is all balls learn how to swing fast enough that you can use a three iron, learn how to swing properly so that you can hit the ball from the middle of the clubface, naturally this doesn't come easy so most folk will just say that blades are crap and shouldn't be used even by pro's.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Yes, but the OP as he says, just plays for fun, and isn't that bothered about it, so he's never going to put in the dedication to get low, and get away with less forgiving clubs, so why try, and put yourself through a less enjoyable experience as a result?
The only option available to him is therefore to buy a set that will let him away with his off-centre hits more often. That certainly makes perfect sense.
The only option available to him is therefore to buy a set that will let him away with his off-centre hits more often. That certainly makes perfect sense.
Mick47
Head Pro
Chris your reasoning is akin to mine. With hindsight maybe I should have tried some intermediate irons before taking the plunge, but, for the moment a least I'm quite happy. If as some posters have suggested today was just a flash in the pan then I'll have to bite the bullet and trade down. But I can't help thinking that a lot of whats written about suitability of this or that iron for this or that handicap is little more than ad-man hype . today that conviction seems to be vindicated but time will tell.
chris661
Money List Winner
So he only plays for fun, enjoys hitting the MP57 yet it is no good? Dont we all play for fun?
I don't think you have to be a cat 1 player to enjoy using "better" players clubs.
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Snelly
Guest
To the OP, You should use whatever makes you happy really.
Playing good golf though has very little to do with the equipment you use. The modern clubs from all manufacturers are much of a muchness at the level that just about everyone on this form plays at. Look at the people who change their bats all the time. They still have the same handicaps as they did with their old gear.
And in addition, it isn't too long ago that the Big Bertha irons were the best thing since sliced bread. Plenty of people off very low handicaps will have used these to shoot superb rounds of golf.
It isn't about the clubs, it is about the swing and the mental strength of the player. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.
That does not mean that it is a bad idea to change your clubs necessarily though. It may put a smile on your face and that is a good enough reason to do it in itself. It is however delusional to think that new clubs will radically drop your handicap. They just won't.
Playing good golf though has very little to do with the equipment you use. The modern clubs from all manufacturers are much of a muchness at the level that just about everyone on this form plays at. Look at the people who change their bats all the time. They still have the same handicaps as they did with their old gear.
And in addition, it isn't too long ago that the Big Bertha irons were the best thing since sliced bread. Plenty of people off very low handicaps will have used these to shoot superb rounds of golf.
It isn't about the clubs, it is about the swing and the mental strength of the player. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.
That does not mean that it is a bad idea to change your clubs necessarily though. It may put a smile on your face and that is a good enough reason to do it in itself. It is however delusional to think that new clubs will radically drop your handicap. They just won't.
chris661
Money List Winner
I've actually gone the other way. I had a set of TM TP's which aren't too dis-similar to what the OP now has in terms of a very small cavity back. I hit them ok and fluctuated between 11 and 14 over the last two years. However I've gone to a more forgiving club in the R11 and the game is so much easier. Off centre hits go better, I've a better ball flight and I'm enjoying playing and practicing with them. I hit it better and further and so for me, the middle ground of a more forgiving iron has made it easier and more fun. I think that will be the case for a lot of golfers on here and sometimes we do get sucked into the hype and the false promises and our ego can get the better of us
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Biggest problem in golf, players wanting to play the shiniest butter knife, when it will cripple them.
chris661
Money List Winner
Really? I would have thougt there are bigger problems than the kit someone wants to play
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Snelly
Guest
Slow play?
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Deleted member 1147
Guest
Maybe you are a higher handicapper because you can't putt, chip or drive.
As such maybe the new irons are perfectly fine for you.
Enjoy them.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
In the context of this thread obviously, I meant idiots trying to play clubs they can't hit in a million years.Really? I would have thougt there are bigger problems than the kit someone wants to play
You keep on with the rolleye eyes though smartarse
chris661
Money List Winner
That's the attitude, well done.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
indeed, just trying to kep up with the GM joneses
ademac
Q-School Graduate
In my opinion some golfers who are a fairly low hcp but would kill to be lower and do all the can to get lower and its all they ever talk/think about, these are usually the blokes who see a higher hcp player using a club that is aimed at low hcp golfers and decide to say he shouldnt be using them!
Why? I think they get a bit worried that high hcp/new golfer may just start hitting the ball much better than themselves and ultimately reach a lower hcp!
I've seen it in action and kind of been on the receiving end too, people are strange and when some people see others succeed at something they have strived for years at and not succeeded they get jealous and can be overly critical to try and put doubt in peoples minds so they fail!
Its interesting that the really good golfers you meet dont have all the best gear but they are just good at golf!
I can fully appreciate that some clubs are easier to hit than others but if a high hcp golfer decides to use a blade then I dont think he deserves to be called an idiot and made to have doubts!
End of the day its a golf club, if someone with a higher hcp than you can hit the ball better than you should be happy for them!
Why? I think they get a bit worried that high hcp/new golfer may just start hitting the ball much better than themselves and ultimately reach a lower hcp!
I've seen it in action and kind of been on the receiving end too, people are strange and when some people see others succeed at something they have strived for years at and not succeeded they get jealous and can be overly critical to try and put doubt in peoples minds so they fail!
Its interesting that the really good golfers you meet dont have all the best gear but they are just good at golf!
I can fully appreciate that some clubs are easier to hit than others but if a high hcp golfer decides to use a blade then I dont think he deserves to be called an idiot and made to have doubts!
End of the day its a golf club, if someone with a higher hcp than you can hit the ball better than you should be happy for them!
