London Tower Block Fire

Just awful :(

My thoughts and prayers this evening are with those who are bereaved or injured, and for those who have missing relatives and friends - and for those who do not yet know who they are missing.
 
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I'm fully in the #prayforthem doesn't help at all I'm afraid.

If i knew or met someone concerned I'd obviously offer condolences. But doing it on a social media is always more for the posters benefit than the victims imo.

but been as you asked the question twice thought I'd offer my opinion.

As to your point about all the bs written elsewhere. Most posts people have an opinion and/or experience in. This one isn't currently controversial. So won't get the same level of responses.

Some fair points.

I certainly don't pray for nothing as I'm not religious at all.

Just watching today and listening to some harrowing stories especially with kids involved and thinking what I would have done and wether I could have done anything just made me realise how vunerable we are that's all.
 
Some fair points.

I certainly don't pray for nothing as I'm not religious at all.

Just watching today and listening to some harrowing stories especially with kids involved and thinking what I would have done and wether I could have done anything just made me realise how vunerable we are that's all.

I fully agree, it's horrific. I didn't really commment on the London or Manchester ones in regards to victims either as picturing dead kids or the choices the parents had to make isn't one that fits well with me at all. Commented more on why someone would do such a thing.

As more facts are released in regards to the structure I'm sure people will discuss the morales of people trying to save money on shortcuts. But from what I've seen briefly, it was suggested that a lot or residents rejected safety measures due to finances or them being unsightly and I don't think that's a great discussion point when victim numbers aren't even confirmed.

The only thing I will add is fair play to all the service people. I'm sure many health and safety rules have been flouted by their continual work during the last 24 hours. Also saw Jammie Oliver tweet an invitation to all effected to go and get free meals at his local restaurant. Think the guys a tool a lot,of the time. But that was a nice touch.
 
I think it's a bit unfair to criticise anyone just because they don't respond on a forum having read a thread. Sometimes just saying nothing is just as powerful at conveying a persons feelings without the need for text.
The whole event has been truly horrific, and the ramifications will be long and heavy but right now people have to deal with it in their own way. whichever way that is.
 
I think it's a bit unfair to criticise anyone just because they don't respond on a forum having read a thread. Sometimes just saying nothing is just as powerful at conveying a persons feelings without the need for text.
The whole event has been truly horrific, and the ramifications will be long and heavy but right now people have to deal with it in their own way. whichever way that is.
Not going to agree or disagree with what you write it was a general statement not a personal one.
 
I can't even begin to think of what those poor souls were going through. The stories of people jumping reminded me of 9/11 and brought a tear to my eye more than once today
 
Sorry for not posting after reading thus post. Was a bit busy burying my gran then shooting of to hospital to support my mrs after surgery that sonething went wrong in. I did have time to read this post but probably like others feel words are not enough. Very sad day all in to be honest.
 
Sorry for not posting after reading thus post. Was a bit busy burying my gran then shooting of to hospital to support my mrs after surgery that sonething went wrong in. I did have time to read this post but probably like others feel words are not enough. Very sad day all in to be honest.

Hope missis Bigslice is ok me man. Not your best of days. 🙁
 
Heart goes out to the people involved and lost souls.
I recently done my loft and its mandatory to fit fire alarms / smoke detectors how can an 8.5 million pound refurbishment not include fire alarm and sprinklers.

Very harrowing to hear witnesses saying they could see kids at the Windows but helpless to do anything.
Awfull day.
 
I just find it staggering that someone would look at a thread knowing what its all about then probably reads what some say but cant get some simple words out.

With all the absolute BS that gets written on this site a simple "Thoughts with all concerned" would suffice.

Just like most threads and what we post that wont effect those effected just being Human should not be difficult.

I'm guilty as charged Tony but really, what is the point? I think those thoughts to myself but I have no need to publicly write them down so a load of guys on a forum can think to themselves "Oh yeah, that D4S is a decent caring guy" Sure, I'm horrified and concerned about what has happened but in the grand scheme of things my thoughts are not really going to be of much comfort to anyone affected in the extremely unlikely event of them actually reading this forum.

I'll keep my thoughts to myself.
 
I'm guilty as charged Tony but really, what is the point? I think those thoughts to myself but I have no need to publicly write them down so a load of guys on a forum can think to themselves "Oh yeah, that D4S is a decent caring guy" Sure, I'm horrified and concerned about what has happened but in the grand scheme of things my thoughts are not really going to be of much comfort to anyone affected in the extremely unlikely event of them actually reading this forum.

I'll keep my thoughts to myself.

i agree with you there mate. very stupid to say that people should comment
 
Horrible business.

Astonished at some of the political/blame/nonsense on the net about this. Folk have died. People risked their own lives to try and help. Amazed how many people talk as if they know the outcome of the Enquiry before it starts.

Some folk need to have a word with themselves.
 
Find it sad, no, disgusting the way the politicians are descending onto the scene and trying to score cheap political points and pointing fingers. They haven't even accounted for everyone yet and while I agree that there needs to be a inquiry into how this happened and who was responsible, now isn't the time to be playing the blame game. I hope some of the missing turn up safe and sound somewhere, and that those in hospital, especially the critically ill, manage to make a recovery and win their fight for survival. Seen some terrible pictures from inside a flat http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40291227 and hard to think how those at the top had any hope of surviving
 
Find it sad, no, disgusting the way the politicians are descending onto the scene and trying to score cheap political points and pointing fingers. They haven't even accounted for everyone yet and while I agree that there needs to be a inquiry into how this happened and who was responsible, now isn't the time to be playing the blame game. I hope some of the missing turn up safe and sound somewhere, and that those in hospital, especially the critically ill, manage to make a recovery and win their fight for survival. Seen some terrible pictures from inside a flat http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40291227 and hard to think how those at the top had any hope of surviving
I don't think that's fair, it's absolutely horrendous and as with any major disaster anywhere in the world, countries politicians will visit the scene, a. Too show solidarity with their citizens, b. They are the ones with power and authority who can make things happen almost immediately.

I've watched all the news reports today and I don't believe I've seen any of them score cheap political points or play the blame game.
 
Obviously one can't help but have a great deal of sympathy for those directly affected. How frightening or worrying it must be to be either be involved or to have family/friends involved is simply not imaginable to those of us who don't.

But as to the rest of it, what can one say? Obviously it should not have happened. But how or why it did happen is not yet known. Those who know what they are dealing with need to investigate to make comment & recommendations to make sure it can't happen again. But idle speculation and social media blather wont help anyone.
 
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