Lazy sods have to work now!!

[Parmo]

A planned national rail strike by the RMT union has been called off after it was challenged in the High Court.
Network Rail was granted an injunction after it alleged discrepancies in the RMT's ballot for industrial action.
It means a four-day strike over job cuts and working hours, due to start next Tuesday, will not go ahead.
Bob Crow, general secretary of the RMT, said the judgement was "an attack on the whole trade union movement" and the executive would recommend a re-ballot.
Mr Crow said: "Workers fighting for the principle of a safe railway have had the whole weight of the law thrown against them."
Earlier, Charles Bear QC, representing Network Rail, told Judge Mrs Justice Sharp, who made the order, that "unlawful" strike action would cause "immense damage to the economy".
Judge Sharp said she had come to "a very clear conclusion" the interim injunction should be granted and the RMT would be unlikely at a trial of the action to establish a statutory defence.
She also refused the RMT permission to appeal.
Robin Gisby, head of operations at Network Rail, said: "The signallers' strike is off and train services next week will run as normal.

It is now vital that the two sides in this dispute get back round the table as soon as possible to negotiate a settlement and I call on them to do so
Transport Secretary Lord Adonis
"This is good news for the millions of passengers who rely on us every day , for our freight users and for the country.

BBC News: Rail workers corrupt

Just remember, don't like your job? Find a new one!!

 

[madandra]

I agree. Like it or lump it as my Dad always says.

 

[vig]

I wonder if people's opinions would change if there was a disaster and the cause was the cut backs on staff that were responsible for safety checks.

Don't get me wrong, I think the rail networks rip off passengers, my son travels into Leeds everyday and the service is crap.

My missus used to work in Leeds and jacked the job in because of the delays and cancellations which were extending her day by 2 hrs.

 

[CannyFifer]

I do a 48 hour week driving a lorry with no union and no perks, unions are bullies in a way tbh and screw the country up when they dont get their own way BUT public services employed by the country are equally as bad. As little work for all the pay and perks/pension they can get away with. Time they entered the real world. Rant over

 

[painterboy]

I agree. Like it or lump it as my Dad always says.

Oh Yea?

If we liked it and lumped it we would still be in the dark ages.

 

[madandra]

PB, I have had jobs where I felt I wasn't getting what I should be and I was being asked to do too much and I didn't have the luxury of having a union to fight my battles but the good thing is that because I moved on and up I dont need a union.

I sometimes feel public sector staff know they are in a kushty position and having a union behind them makes them think thy have a God given right to a job for life.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think this "lazy sods" tag is a bit of a myth. I'm sure the majority of both the signalmen and maintenance crews on our railways put the hours and graft in. As a daily commuter I don't think my service is too bad in terms of reliability andits the franchises that eeek every penny of profit with over the top fares I object too. If all these profits are being put back into the infrastrucutre why are we having the dispute. Probably way too simplistic a view. Having watched Bob Crowe on the news its clear he's just after a fight and to be fair seems on a strike or be damned mission. I've heard the arguments about 1500 job cuts and rota changes increasing the number of weekends worked. I don't know enough about it to comment with proper subjection but I'm guessing that ultimately rather than strike if you are that unhappy with the job and the benefits etc the option to look elsewhere would seem obvious

In terms of public sector workers I agree that it can be perceived that its a cushy deal and I concede that although I DO actually put a solid days graft in, my job has no resemblance to any sort of manual labour, transportation, rescue service etc. That said I do get hacked off when its all about how easy life is etc. Yes I get flexi and yes I get a lot of annual leave and a decent pension scheme. Those were on offer as part of the job. I'm not going to turn them down.

We do have unions but within the NHS these go way back, including before the trouble in the 70's when it use to be COHSE. I have to say our unions have to work hard to get any sort of pay bargaining and bearing in mind that although admin staff do get the benefit, the vast majority of these public sector workers that have this so called cushy life are dedicated nurses, police and fire crews that put themselves on the line. Again I know there are rotten apples in every barrel and I've met my share of unhelpful nursing staff and policeman looking for an easy collar. However I'd like to think if the chips were down again I'd get the same expert medical treatment I did four years ago, and that rescue services would put their life on the line for me and my family.

 

[USER1999]

Question,

Why does a tube driver earn 37000 for a 35 hour week, when a bus driver earns 17000 for a similar time.

 

[Parmo]

I was joking about the lazy bit, I am sure they work very hard and in tough conditions.

I am all in favour of unions, I think without them business would just walk all over the workers. You have to have a line where you say "I don't like the way things are going, but for the sake of the customers I won't strike and let them down".

My wife is a nurse in oncology and they are four nurses down with the same work load, do management care? No like hell they do, if because of the pressure on my wife she made a mistake the Trust would hang her out to dry.

 

[SS2]

I don't know any of the details of the strike but Bob Crow makes for good telly. He is the spiritual successor to the legendary Jimmy Knapp, surely the most unreasonable man ever.

The cancelling of the strike by use of court action will just make Mr Crow even more annoyed.

 

[Parmo]

SS2 you are up early... Wet the bed again?

 

[SS2]

Not as early as you Parmo ! The big question is about Murph posting at 3:03am.

Is he:

(a) Up very early
(b) Up very late from the night before
(c) Located in a different time zone

I reckon the answer might be all three. Go on Murph, spill the beans on your nocturnal activities !

 

[Imurg]

He's still in Florida!!

 

[SS2]

He's still in Florida!!

That's what he wants us all to think. He's actually at home in Englandshire getting up really really early to so he can beat Parmo to the First Post of the Day

 

[Imurg]

Time to get out more Andy!

 

[SS2]

Time to get out more Andy!

The doctors here won't allow it.

 

[bigbiffa]

as you know guys im a railway employee. parmo, your ignorance disgusts me m8. the strike was never about being lazy, the whole point of the strike was to bring to the publics eye, the safety implications of cutting back 1500 staff when we are already well short of men. yes, we are not happy that they are trying to change our terms and conditions, but hey in this climate eventually things have to change. we were left with NO choice as NR had said this is the deal, and we are not bending. where is the fairness in that? i must thank homer and vig, as they have at least enough about them to TRY and see our side of the story.Vig m8, your point is the WHOLE point of the industrial action, and thanks for showing some sympathy.
Parmo, i ask you this. would you be happy if a gas man came to your house to install a boiler, with only half the tools he needed, and left a shoddy job? Thats just unsafe practice!
And trust me, that is what NR are trying to do to railway maintenance, another disaster WILL happen.
If you have a point to make, at least make sure you have the CORRECT info, and that your point is valid.
Ive said before that none of us WANTED to (how dare we parmo) inconvenience your lives, but we have been backed into a corner,and its all we have left.
There is a new ballot about to be taken, so watch this space!

 

[Mick47]

Employees at the turn of the last century were treated like slaves, unions, in the early years, won fair wages and safe working conditions for the working man. In the seventies they went power crazy and lost a lot of public sympathy, in the eighties a few unions pushed their luck too far and Maggi all but, destroyed them. Since then support for the unions has declined but latterly with the MPs expences scandal,the above inflation rises for industry bosses, the bank bonus fiasco and the pension fund robbing, the working man will once again turn to the unions - where else can he turn?- The rights and wrongs of the rail and BA disputes I'll leave you to ponder but for sure we can expect to see much more industrial unrest over the next couple of years.

 

[Atticus_Finch]

Power to the people. I'm fed up of workers having to do more for less. I'm doing a job that about 4 people did 20 years ago. It's about time we stuck it to The Man.

 

[Parmo]

Ive said before that none of us WANTED to (how dare we parmo) inconvenience your lives, but we have been backed into a corner,and its all we have left.
There is a new ballot about to be taken, so watch this space!

Pathetic mate.

Using safety to justify yourselves holding the country to ransom is plain cheap. As I mentioned there are nurses, police and other professions under staffed who have people lives in their hands everyday, do they strike? No because they can't and they wouldn't because they know its not fair on the people they serve, well unlike the bunch of bullies the unions are turning into.

I think you will find that you have little public support and without that you won't get very far.