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[Yant]

A club golfer does not need to hit the ball hard. It only puts you more frequently in difficult situations that most do not have the skill to be able to recover from.

Smooth and steady will win most club golf events every time.

 

[FAB90]

I really struggle with this. I always find that I start out swinging to fast and then manage to slow myself down hit a few good shots then try to go to hard and then the cycle repeats itself over and over

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I remember one of the old boys at my club saying he says "S E V E R I A N O" on the backswing and "B A L L A S T E R O S" on the through swing.
Supposedly, if you make the swing last as long as it takes to say the full name, your rhythm should be ok.
Not tried it myself, as my swing is already super smooth

 

[Blue in Munich]

Must be an age thing , when I started playing Couples was at his peak and a joy to watch.

Maybe it's a reading thing; I believe Snead has had more books published than Couples.

 

[Oldham92]

I did have a lot more success chipping today after remembering this thread while I was on the course. Cheers!

 

[sunshine]

On a negative, my scorecard holder has dropped to bits !! Has anyone got any spares lying about or any recommendations for one that will last more than 3 rounds!?

You need to get fitted for a scorecard holder if you want it to last.

 

[clubchamp98]

Maybe it's a reading thing; I believe Snead has had more books published than Couples.

So next time I have a lesson and the pro sends me the video . Yours will send you a book.
I don’t belive a beginner can learn from a book but “watch and learn “ has always been a popular saying.

 

[Blue in Munich]

So next time I have a lesson and the pro sends me the video . Yours will send you a book.
I don’t belive a beginner can learn from a book but “watch and learn “ has always been a popular saying.

That would depend on which of the types of learning the pupil responds best to. "Those who can do, those who can't teach" is another popular saying which is about as wrong as "watch & learn".

 

[bobmac]

That would depend on which of the types of learning the pupil responds best to. "Those who can do, those who can't teach" is another popular saying which is about as wrong as "watch & learn".

If I wanted to work on my tempo, I'd watch Freddy, not read a book

 

[Wolf]

If I wanted to work on my tempo, I'd watch Freddy, not read a book

Best swing their is for me style, tempo and he's just pretty damn cool.

Always been my go to, to watch for tempo. Reminds me of what my dad used to tell me growing up when teaching me try to create effortless power rather than using a powerful effort. Not sure of that makes sense to anyone else but always did to me. Then we would watch swings like Freddie and Els to help me understand what he meant.

 

[clubchamp98]

That would depend on which of the types of learning the pupil responds best to. "Those who can do, those who can't teach" is another popular saying which is about as wrong as "watch & learn".

So you think “watch and learn “ is wrong.
You can’t see tempo in a book.

 

[Sats]

Plenty of research on this matter, a lot of people think swinging slower is the key when it's actually tempo that needs work rather than swinging slower. I use a metronome app and an orange whip to practice tempo.

 

[Blue in Munich]

If I wanted to work on my tempo, I'd watch Freddy, not read a book

And I'd watch Snead; having seen both in real life I would prefer to watch him. The first book reference was in response to the ageist comment from the other poster. And the book comment is still valid imo; while a video can show you tempo, it won't necessarily explain the swing thoughts that will help you maintain it. As I said, it depends what method of learning you respond best to.

 

[Blue in Munich]

So you think “watch and learn “ is wrong.
You can’t see tempo in a book.

Watch and copy would be more valid; copying a seen motion might get you replicating it but not understanding the reason why, therefore you haven't learnt. If you don't know why you're doing something then maybe you're missing the point or you won't apply it correctly.

Out of interest, have you read the book in which you can't see tempo...?

 

[bobmac]

And I'd watch Snead; having seen both in real life I would prefer to watch him. The first book reference was in response to the ageist comment from the other poster. And the book comment is still valid imo; while a video can show you tempo, it won't necessarily explain the swing thoughts that will help you maintain it. As I said, it depends what method of learning you respond best to.

How was it an ageist comment?
You grew up watching Snead. Clubchamp grew up watching Couples. Others grew up watching Tiger.
Nothing ageist just different generations.

Watch and copy would be more valid; copying a seen motion might get you replicating it but not understanding the reason why, therefore you haven't learnt. If you don't know why you're doing something then maybe you're missing the point or you won't apply it correctly.

I don't agree, you don't need to know how things work to make them work.
I learned golf by watching Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Treevino etc and just copied them.
I never read a book or had a lesson but got down to 2 by the time I was 16.

Yes, people learn different ways but no one way is better than the other

 

[clubchamp98]

And I'd watch Snead; having seen both in real life I would prefer to watch him. The first book reference was in response to the ageist comment from the other poster. And the book comment is still valid imo; while a video can show you tempo, it won't necessarily explain the swing thoughts that will help you maintain it. As I said, it depends what method of learning you respond best to.

It wasn’t an ageist comment I was talking about myself. 62 yrs , But if that upset you I am sorry.

 

[clubchamp98]

Watch and copy would be more valid; copying a seen motion might get you replicating it but not understanding the reason why, therefore you haven't learnt. If you don't know why you're doing something then maybe you're missing the point or you won't apply it correctly.

Out of interest, have you read the book in which you can't see tempo...?

You can explain tempo in a book.
You can’t see it imo.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Finding a nice tempo in warm up today and for the most part took it to the course. A couple of poor shots caused by the old issue of swinging with the arms and not turning properly but tried to keep it smooth and trust

 

[clubchamp98]

And I'd watch Snead; having seen both in real life I would prefer to watch him. The first book reference was in response to the ageist comment from the other poster. And the book comment is still valid imo; while a video can show you tempo, it won't necessarily explain the swing thoughts that will help you maintain it. As I said, it depends what method of learning you respond best to.

How Ironic that somebody who thinks you can learn golf from a book has misread my comment and accused me of ageism.
The word is mightier than the sword but only if it is interpreted correctly.

 

[Scozzy]

There's a great YouTube video of Freddie couples back in the day,the soundtrack? "Hit me with your rhythm stick" Ian duty and the blockheads, classic!! Anyway the really cool thing besides the music is the overhead split camera which shows him hitting a wedge and 3w at the same time and you can't tell the difference...hit me slowly hit me quick..... brilliant