JPX 800s

[PNWokingham]

Was at the club yesterday speaking to one of the younger lads who works in the pro shop and he asks me if I am still looking to buy a set of these. Yes, if I can justify the cost when I am playing well at the moment with my MX25s and if I get the time to get to New Malden and have a fitting. The lad plays off 4 and went for a fitting for the 53s or one of the more serious clubs and came away buying the 800s and not even the pro versions. He said that he is geting 16 yards more per club than his old Titleist AP2s but they are much more forgiving and still plenty of feel. Sounds amazing and they are now firmly back on the buy list if I get a bonus next month!! James - still fancy some well-used Mizunos!

 

[Ethan]

Charles Howell III joined Mizuno this season and is playing the 800 Pros. Ignacio Garrido plays the MX200 which are even more Game Improvement.

 

[madandra]

Is the pro getting longer per club or have they made the lofts stronger?

Can we start a revolution to get manufacturers to stamp each club with the loft and not a number that fools the player into thinking he is the dog's danglies.

 

[madandra]

It seems the 800's have similar lofts as Wilson Di7's. PW is 44 as opposed to Wilsons 43.

MP57 lofts from 4-pw
24 27 31 35 39 43 47

JPX800 lofts from 4-pw
22 25 28 32 36 40 44

Wilson Di7 lofts from 4-pw
23 25.5 28.5 31.5 35 39 43

So now Mizuno are conning customers.

 

[PNWokingham]

I suspect there is a bit of loft strengthening but I spoke with a Mizuno guy and he said that they are the "hottest" clubs they have made and, thus, go the furthest.

 

[haplesshacker]

I agree, stick the lofts and the iron number on the sole, just whilst we go through a transition period.

 

[MashieNiblick]

I agree, stick the lofts and the iron number on the sole, just whilst we go through a transition period.

Having both would be best solution. Just lofts would'nt work for me. Just can't see myself thinking "hmm is this a 31 degree or a 35 degree. Too long working with the iron numbers I suppose. And how about tv commentary "Westwood has just hit a sublime 24 degree iron to 6 feet to set up a birdie". Does that work?

Thing is we use iron numbers to compare one set with another when really they are just the numbers for that set. Manufacturers play on this to promote "the longest clubs we have ever made" as well as sell extra wedges to fill the gaps.

 

[MizunoGreyhound]

Psychology is what it`s all about. How many of us higher handicappers are more than happy hitting 8, 9 or pw in to a green? The newer lofts may be stronger and the equivalent of the extra club, but because we think we are only hitting club "X" then we are more confident about the shot.

Hats off to the manufacturers marketing people for hoodwinking club golfers and selling more wedges to boot.

 

[Imurg]

Mizuno have gone on record stating that they didn't want to strengthen lofts on their GI irons but were forced to follow the pack because it seems distance is valued more than accuracy. Their old lofts don't go as far so people don't buy them, afraid of losing distance.

 

[Smiffy]

My 4 iron could have 27 stamped on the bottom of it, 'cos that's how many yards I hit it

 

[richart]

My 4 iron could have 27 stamped on the bottom of it, 'cos that's how many yards I hit it

Dead straight though.

 

[Imurg]

My 4 iron could have 27 stamped on the bottom of it, 'cos that's how many yards I hit it

Dead straight though.

Sure????

 

[richart]

My 4 iron could have 27 stamped on the bottom of it, 'cos that's how many yards I hit it

Dead straight though.

Sure????

Divot went 28 yards.

 

[Alex1975]

It seems the 800's have similar lofts as Wilson Di7's. PW is 44 as opposed to Wilsons 43.

MP57 lofts from 4-pw
24 27 31 35 39 43 47

JPX800 lofts from 4-pw
22 25 28 32 36 40 44

Wilson Di7 lofts from 4-pw
23 25.5 28.5 31.5 35 39 43

So now Mizuno are conning customers.

When I had my 53s fitted the fitter told me that Mizuno could not compete in the GI market if they kept with traditional lofts as the tests in mags and online always just talk about how far the clubs go. They made it and make it very clear that this is what they have done with the 800s and why. They will not be doing it with the MPs and my MPs are at least a club shorter than my old Wilson.

 

[ScienceBoy]

So those people out there who have a 43* PW and the next club in the bag is a 52 or 56 then they could have a massive gap without realising it... thus costing them strokes

I say manufacturers should print the loft somewhere on the head of all clubs to help players better choose the right club for the right shot.

I can see grouping of clubs at the low loft end soon as people carry hybrids along with irons, for some by accident the only difference might be a deg or two in loft and some shaft length between the hybrid and their longest iron!

 

[Imurg]

Agreed but it's not like the information isn't available if you're prepared to look

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I've hit both the 800 and the pro and I love the Pro. They are stronger lofts 29 degree 6 iron and 45 degree wedge but the feeling and flight were awesome. If I was looking at irons right now they would be my first choice. Get them C/F'd and they would be seriously good bats

 

[viscount17]

And how about tv commentary "Westwood has just hit a sublime 24 degree iron to 6 feet to set up a birdie". Does that work?

probably better than 'Westwood has just hit a sublime 184 yard 9-iron to 6 feet to set up a birdie' when we all know his 9-iron is <u>nothing</u> like ours.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

Agreed but it's not like the information isn't available if you're prepared to look

It's pretty easy to find. My Di7 PW is 43* and the next club was a 55* SW. I bought a 48* wedge to gap them and I've just got a 60* wedge off of BobBirdie through the for sale section.

Also, every time I walk into the pro shop I seem to gravitate towards the JPX800s and give them a wiggle. Fine looking bats IMO