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If it’s that bad Bri it will only last a maximum of 5 years, how long will take to repair the damage of 15yrs of tory rule.
Jeremy Corbyn-Leadership quality?
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harpo_72
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That could be said of the Tories.. the point is we have experienced their efforts. If your happy with it so be it, if not bite the bullet and go the other way .. life is simple too much over thinking it
Tashyboy
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Just had a quick read on Wikipedia, i would'nt say she is a disgrace, compared to Corbyn and Bojo she is deffo Div 3 when in comes to Porkies.
Tashyboy
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Not really looked at how abstaining could be as damaging as voting
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She’s the BBC Chief Political Reporter, it’s not porkies it’s her bias!
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Many believe abstaining or spoiling your ballot paper is a vote for your worst choice.Not really looked at how abstaining could be as damaging as voting
Cherry13
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With regards to Corbyn/Momentum/unions I think there are certainly some cracks starting to appear, in Jarrow for instance unite forced through their preferred choice, with the backing of momentum and strongly AGAINST Corbyn and McDonnells choice (Corbyn ex chief of staff). They are both apparently furious at the choice because Jarrow is likely one of the safest seats in the country and there man would have been a shoe in.
Will it only last 5 years? Will Labour bring in laws that cause further harm, if elected with a strong majority? What damage will Momentum do, once emboldened, in council elections? Neither you nor I can forecast what a Labour govt would do, or any govt, but we can look at their current behaviour, Labour or Tory, and decide from there.
635 cases of antisemitism in the Labour Party in the first 6 months of this year. As much as I want a socialist thinking govt I just can't vote for a party that, potentially, looks a little like the Nazi party of the early 1930's.
Tashyboy
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oh hang on.
SocketRocket
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Go what way? Im a Brexiteer so LibDems are a no go zone, Labour with Corbyn is a worst choice than pins in the eyes. Greens are as bad as Labour with policies so Boris or Nigel for me.
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Come on Bri, 635 allegations of antisemitism, I’m not excusing any of the 635 but it ranges from somebody “liking†or sharing a social media post to out and out abuse. From which 8 people have been expelled from the party
The 130 outstanding cases are cases the Jewish Labour Movement have disagreed or are unhappy with the decision and have referred them to the EHRC. The pedantic bit of whether they have been dealt with or not is the difference in response between the 2.
Many believe it is a purposeful campaign to attack Corbyn and he has on record time and time again been proved to actually stand up and support the Jewish community.
Hacker Khan
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You should not vote for Corbyn as he will do harm to the economy. But we must get Brexit done as the overwhelming evidence is that it will do harm to the economy. However one is a good type of harm and not to be feared. #factcheck
harpo_72
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Yeah we know, but the point was your comment could be applied to the Tories as well..
and a bit pointless
toyboy54
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Changed my nind-can I vote for Tashyboy with Andrew Neil as 2ic. Confess to thinking About voting for Mrs.Krankie(appreciate that Blackford in Westminster is a total embarrassment and one trick pony)again...just to keep Tories out)
Where are the real leaders and people of integrity when you need them?
Seen Corbyn again on News At Ten and still no apology for anti-Semitism,plus check him out on where the money is coming from and would he defend us militarily????
As for Mrs.Krankie last night Neil Skewered her Properly on all subjects--would you believe that she was quite happy to quote that while the NHS up here are missing virtually every target set and have multi-million pound hospitals that are unfit for purpose/closed/subject to possible legal action for killing patients she proudly quotes that we are doing much better than England,WTF?what a small minded way of thinking/measuring progress-shameful and embarrassing way of thinking(but so prevalent amongst her adoring followers ) Think I'll go back to Croatia and sign myself into that 3rd world institution that I was in--just to escape all this crap/lying.
Jimbo
Where are the real leaders and people of integrity when you need them?
Seen Corbyn again on News At Ten and still no apology for anti-Semitism,plus check him out on where the money is coming from and would he defend us militarily????
As for Mrs.Krankie last night Neil Skewered her Properly on all subjects--would you believe that she was quite happy to quote that while the NHS up here are missing virtually every target set and have multi-million pound hospitals that are unfit for purpose/closed/subject to possible legal action for killing patients she proudly quotes that we are doing much better than England,WTF?what a small minded way of thinking/measuring progress-shameful and embarrassing way of thinking(but so prevalent amongst her adoring followers ) Think I'll go back to Croatia and sign myself into that 3rd world institution that I was in--just to escape all this crap/lying.
Jimbo
So how many are acceptable? You're making excuses for some of them, writing them off as not being bad enough... really? You get to choose what isn't bad enough? Sharing derogatory posts can constitute bullying, and the fact that someone has liked them - are you saying liking antisemite posts is ok.
The Welsh Labour candidate handled it superbly last week. She highlighted in to the Welsh Labour Party, who asked Labour UK's Legal and Governance Office to investigate - and they said no...you've got to be kidding!!!
Corbyn had the opportunity in 2016 when the (very brief) Chakrabarti investigation took place. And he's had ample opportunity on countless occasions to show strong leadership in this and has failed worse than miserably. So he's stood up time and again? No he hasn't. He's said words but where are the strong actions?
I do have a growing inkling that Corbyn isn't an antisemite, more just a wet dishcloth totally lacking in the ability to show strong leadership on issues that need him to tell some people to do one. But that still doesn't get away from the fact that you have Momentum in the background hounding good, longstanding MP's and councillors out of a job they've done very well.
Tashyboy
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What amazes me re the political state we now find ourselves is this. Is Bojo the best that the tories have. Same with Corbyn, is he Labours trump card. Lib Anti dems, how can a party be taken serious to govern when over 50% of the country voted leave and they she says ' don't think so". Brexit, Farage is marmite. Same up north and the SNP and Krankie. How have we got to a state where Our crap is better than there crap". Whilst ever we defend these idiots and think these are the best thing since sliced bread, and If we allow these Leaders to continue to spread there lies, we will continue heading down a one way poo street.
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No amount is acceptable, my point is the fact it’s not just Labour and some of the allegations have come from third parties, ie those offended on behalf of others!
I wish to God Labour had a different leader and a few others were gone, but that’s not the choice we have at the moment.
As has been said time and time again we have 2 very bad leaders and parties at the moment, but as we get closet to the election I get a strong whiff of media bias and meddling going on, even Laura Keunssberg today tweeted 21 times about Labour and antisemitism letter and just twice about the tory islamophobia letter.
ITV News at 10 confronts boris about the their issues and just shows him talking about Corbyn.
toyboy54
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Hobbit............So well put and true especially the 'wet dishcloth'
His stance on any form of of how to defend the UK against terrorism/conventional warfare or having the balls to not only push the buttonbut making it loud and clear that there would be instant retaliation if necessary-despite the MAD scenario is veryworrying--(-If I'm going out in that situation then dammed right that that I want to take a few with me)
Jimbo
His stance on any form of of how to defend the UK against terrorism/conventional warfare or having the balls to not only push the buttonbut making it loud and clear that there would be instant retaliation if necessary-despite the MAD scenario is veryworrying--(-If I'm going out in that situation then dammed right that that I want to take a few with me)
Jimbo
I'm with you on 99% of what you've posted. However, I don't have a problem with SOME people highlighting issues. There are people that need stronger people or people with access to media to defend them.
That said, it doesn't matter how many different ways its painted, in terms of economies of scale Labour has a massive problem with who's jerking the chains behind the scenes. Do I want a puppet govt ran by Momentum and the unions. I sometimes feel Corbyn can't say exactly what he feels he should be said because of those hiding in the shadows. We all know he's Eurosceptic and has wanted to be out of Europe for almost 30 years. He can't bring himself to say Remain because of his beliefs but he wasn't say leave because of who's behind the scenes.
You want Leave... I'd be very, very sceptical about Labour delivering that. Jeremy won't have a choice in it.
4LEX
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Kussenberg isn't biased towards the Tories. If you believe that you're deluded or have an agenda. Any nutjob on Google can put together some biased edits.......using Google as evidence FFS 
As for Corbyn....let's hope this election kills him as a mainstream player. When Labour and the country needed a strong opposition - it got a weak, cowardly and self obsessed clown. Anyone with any self respect would've resigned after the last election. He finished a long second to the worst and most complacent election campaign in decades and hailed it as a victory.
A strong and united Labour party with a decent leader and balanced manifesto and it would've been a shoe in.
I'll have the pick n mix, crisps and popcorn out on the 12th/13th and enjoy this scumbags demise.
As for Corbyn....let's hope this election kills him as a mainstream player. When Labour and the country needed a strong opposition - it got a weak, cowardly and self obsessed clown. Anyone with any self respect would've resigned after the last election. He finished a long second to the worst and most complacent election campaign in decades and hailed it as a victory.
A strong and united Labour party with a decent leader and balanced manifesto and it would've been a shoe in.
I'll have the pick n mix, crisps and popcorn out on the 12th/13th and enjoy this scumbags demise.