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Ice bucket nonsense

I had no objection to doing it. It was just a bit of fun and all well and good that I am now more aware of an charity and an illness that I had little knowledge of before and the charity is better off by a tenner. I was nominated but never really felt any pressure, in fact if I had not done it I am sure nothing more would have been said. My brother in law, however, did not want to do it when he was nominated and simply posted that he would make a donation instead to a CF charity as he has a relative who suffers from it.

There are all sorts of times when you feel pressured to put your hand in your pocket when you may not want to or feel you ought to. Hell, I get that feeling every time an envelope comes round at work to collect for a birthday present or leaving present for someone I either do not like or do not feel are particularly good at their job but in order to keep the peace at work I get my wallet out.
 
Below is my post to Facebook as to why I didn't do it. It's just a popularity contest and lots of people aren't donating. By my own standards I have donated a large amount of money to Macmillan this year due to a close family friend passing away and it being our chosen charity at work this year. To be honest being nominated is making me think long and hard as to whether I want to stay on Facebook at all.



I've been nominated for the Ice bucket challenge, but really have a bit too much going on to take part. I've also donated a significant amount of money to Macmillan this year and I feel other charities may be more deserving of my next donation.

There are many illnesses out there that us, the general public don't know about. There are many more that we do and maybe we should be looking at raising awareness of more than just one. Charity is great when it's for the right cause, however we as individuals should be allowed to contribute our hard earned to whichever charity we would like as opposed to whichever one has the best marketing department.

Here's a little known illness that causes sufferers a great deal of upset:-

Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome

Cyclic vomiting syndrome is a condition whose symptoms are recurring attacks of intense nausea, vomiting and sometimes abdominal pain and/or headaches or migraines. Cyclic vomiting usually develops during childhood; while it often ends during adolescence, it can persist into adult life. Onset of the condition is possible at any age but is seen to occur more often in a young age. Sufferers may vomit or retch six to twelve times an hour and an episode may last from a few hours to well over 3 weeks. Some people may find it hard to conceive how anyone can vomit after that length of time, as the stomach will have emptied after the first few instances of vomiting. Acid, bile and (if the vomiting is severe) blood may be vomited. It results in lack of sleep, normal eating, and concentration. The cause of CVS has not been determined, there are no diagnostic tests for it.

Now I challenge you if you are still reading to find another illness, disease or charity that would benefit from heightened awareness and post that on your timeline.
 
therod said:
You may not get Facebook, you may give a fortune to charity, but to start a post criticising something you don't understand, or don't want to understand does you no favours.

Who cares about their motivation, neither you or I know what that is. The amount raised is the only thing that matters.

You just sound a bit out of touch.
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Fair enough I may be late to the party but I seem to understand it better than some of the 'pro' comments on this thread (& it was after been dared that I went to find out what the heck it was all about so that I could understand and only then decided to start the thread because now that I understood it I didn't agree with the badgering aspect that the challenge promotes)
 
la_lucha said:
Below is my post to Facebook as to why I didn't do it. It's just a popularity contest and lots of people aren't donating. By my own standards I have donated a large amount of money to Macmillan this year due to a close family friend passing away and it being our chosen charity at work this year. To be honest being nominated is making me think long and hard as to whether I want to stay on Facebook at all.



I've been nominated for the Ice bucket challenge, but really have a bit too much going on to take part. I've also donated a significant amount of money to Macmillan this year and I feel other charities may be more deserving of my next donation.

There are many illnesses out there that us, the general public don't know about. There are many more that we do and maybe we should be looking at raising awareness of more than just one. Charity is great when it's for the right cause, however we as individuals should be allowed to contribute our hard earned to whichever charity we would like as opposed to whichever one has the best marketing department.

Here's a little known illness that causes sufferers a great deal of upset:-

Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome

Cyclic vomiting syndrome is a condition whose symptoms are recurring attacks of intense nausea, vomiting and sometimes abdominal pain and/or headaches or migraines. Cyclic vomiting usually develops during childhood; while it often ends during adolescence, it can persist into adult life. Onset of the condition is possible at any age but is seen to occur more often in a young age. Sufferers may vomit or retch six to twelve times an hour and an episode may last from a few hours to well over 3 weeks. Some people may find it hard to conceive how anyone can vomit after that length of time, as the stomach will have emptied after the first few instances of vomiting. Acid, bile and (if the vomiting is severe) blood may be vomited. It results in lack of sleep, normal eating, and concentration. The cause of CVS has not been determined, there are no diagnostic tests for it.

Now I challenge you if you are still reading to find another illness, disease or charity that would benefit from heightened awareness and post that on your timeline.
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I'll wager you are aware of this syndrome now due to facebook and the icebucket challenge making that father post about his little girl.

There is room for many charities and who you donate or not to is a personal and private matter, but you can highlight and support anyone you wish and I congratulate you doing so. ALS and icebucket got 'trending' and it has done what it set out to do.

There will be another along and we'll do the same again as these charities need all the support and help they can.
 
I would not want to play golf with anyone who had an issue with the ice bucket challenge.

Fair enough, it is somewhat attention seeking and is now over-exposed but so what? It has raised $$$ and awareness beyond expectation.

As far as I can tell, those against it don't like the fact that their colleagues or friends think that they are miserable, tight, dull killjoys with thin skins. Well, good. If the cap fits.....
 
Me thinks there's a few grumpy people on here criticising it because they are Billy no mates, and are furious that no one has challenged them to do it yet.;)
 
Snelly said:
I would not want to play golf with anyone who had an issue with the ice bucket challenge.

Fair enough, it is somewhat attention seeking and is now over-exposed but so what? It has raised $$$ and awareness beyond expectation.

As far as I can tell, those against it don't like the fact that their colleagues or friends think that they are miserable, tight, dull killjoys with thin skins. Well, good. If the cap fits.....
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As usual as perceptive as a brick!
 
The popular view then is as long as its raising money for charity then anything goes

Happy to be in the minority this time guys

Thanks for posting on this one
 
Snelly said:
I would not want to play golf with anyone who had an issue with the ice bucket challenge.

Fair enough, it is somewhat attention seeking and is now over-exposed but so what? It has raised $$$ and awareness beyond expectation.

As far as I can tell, those against it don't like the fact that their colleagues or friends think that they are miserable, tight, dull killjoys with thin skins. Well, good. If the cap fits.....
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I would not want to play golf with someone who needs a crappy popularity contest to push them into donating to charity. Some of us donate through our own choice without the need to be prompted.

CMAC said:
I'll wager you are aware of this syndrome now due to facebook and the icebucket challenge making that father post about his little girl.

There is room for many charities and who you donate or not to is a personal and private matter, but you can highlight and support anyone you wish and I congratulate you doing so. ALS and icebucket got 'trending' and it has done what it set out to do.

There will be another along and we'll do the same again as these charities need all the support and help they can.
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Correct, can you guess how many people that read and like my post have actually done a bit of research into different illnesses and charities instead of chucking water over their heads??? 0, none zilch. People can't be arsed to research other charities that my be worthy.
 
Slab said:
As usual as perceptive as a brick!
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Thanks. Consistency is important.

Sorry if you are still getting bullied at work for being uncharitable. PM me your company details and I will write to HR on your behalf. You poor lamb.
 
Slab said:
The popular view then is as long as its raising money for charity then anything goes

Happy to be in the minority this time guys

Thanks for posting on this one
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Can I ask what exactly is it you think is so wrong about people throwing water over their head and then donating ?

Yes when raising money - pretty much anything goes but obviously within reason and legality

You mentioned neck nominate early - totally different scenario

Recently the ladies on social media where asked to post a pic without make up and then donate to charity - would you have a problem with that ?

I really can't see what's wrong with what's happening

It has even grabbed the attention of some of the biggest people on the planet.
 
I'm wondering how many people opposed to people throwing buckets of water over their heads are more than happy to wear old mans clothes and wander around some fields hitting a small white ball into a hole for several house to raise money for HFH? A pursuit I imagine will seem just as alien and stupid to the majority of the social media generation as this seems to be to some golfers.

End of the day they are both raising money for deserving causes, which without it happening would not have been raised.
 
I was in the chipshop the other night and someone came in, dry as a bone but a little scruffy looking. First thing he said to the girl in the chippy, "sorry I've just done this Ice Bucket challenge so I'm a little cold." I have absolutely no idea what relevance this had to his order of Donor Kebab with chips and Chilli sauce and a chicken and mushroom pie and chips, but he felt the need to brag about me. People are not doing this for awareness of the illness, they are doing it for their own gratuitous purposes and most are NOT DONATING to charity. There is even confusion as to whether it's for ALS or Macmillan now and no-one as far as I'm aware has come out to clear it up. It's a bit conniving of macmillan to get in on the act in my opinion. It's the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge and not the Macmillan Ice bucket challenge.
 
Donating to the charity isn't a problem for me. Throwing a bucket of water over my head, or lying in a bath of baked beans for some other charity, doesn't light my candle. But if some think it's great, and donate on the back of it, crack on!
 
As it happens I became all too aware of ALS just two Sundays ago when I found out that a good friend and golfing buddy of mine from some time ago with whom I had lost touch over the last few years, died fairly recently of motor neuron disease.

He went along to his GP one day with some niggles he had and was subsequently diagnosed as having the disease. 6 months later he was in a hospice having to be strapped upright in his chair - completely paralysed (so sad to even think of that with such a fine guy) - and he died very soon afterwards. 6 months from diagnosis to death. Possible a 'good thing' said his bestest lifelong buddy who told me (with tears in his eyes). But how cruel life can be.
 
la_lucha said:
I would not want to play golf with someone who needs a crappy popularity contest to push them into donating to charity. Some of us donate through our own choice without the need to be prompted.



Correct, can you guess how many people that read and like my post have actually done a bit of research into different illnesses and charities instead of chucking water over their heads??? 0, none zilch. People can't be arsed to research other charities that my be worthy.
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Dismissing it as a popularity contest is incorrect IMO

I have done it and then donated - and millions of others have also done it to raise awareness and money - not to be popular.

I donate on a monthly basis to other charities - there isn't a pecking order of which are more deserving - they are all worth while causes

What do you think of things like Sport a Aid , Comic a Relief , sport Relief , children in need etc etc where millions upon millions do daft things in aid of charity ?

To dismiss something because there are other charities is also wrong IMO - people can and have done the ice bucket challenge but have donated to other worthwhile causes.
 
la_lucha said:
I was in the chipshop the other night and someone came in, dry as a bone but a little scruffy looking. First thing he said to the girl in the chippy, "sorry I've just done this Ice Bucket challenge so I'm a little cold." I have absolutely no idea what relevance this had to his order of Donor Kebab with chips and Chilli sauce and a chicken and mushroom pie and chips, but he felt the need to brag about me. People are not doing this for awareness of the illness, they are doing it for their own gratuitous purposes and most are NOT DONATING to charity. There is even confusion as to whether it's for ALS or Macmillan now and no-one as far as I'm aware has come out to clear it up. It's a bit conniving of macmillan to get in on the act in my opinion. It's the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge and not the Macmillan Ice bucket challenge.
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Don't judge the actions of the many by the actions of a few

Sorry but all my friends and family have done the challenge and donated
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Dismissing it as a popularity contest is incorrect IMO

I have done it and then donated - and millions of others have also done it to raise awareness and money - not to be popular.

I donate on a monthly basis to other charities - there isn't a pecking order of which are more deserving - they are all worth while causes

What do you think of things like Sport a Aid , Comic a Relief , sport Relief , children in need etc etc where millions upon millions do daft things in aid of charity ?

To dismiss something because there are other charities is also wrong IMO - people can and have done the ice bucket challenge but have donated to other worthwhile causes.
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I will personally donate £10 to H4H if Phil lets me throw a bucket of water over his head on the first tee at blackmoor next month.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
What do you think of things like Sport a Aid , Comic a Relief , sport Relief , children in need etc etc where millions upon millions do daft things in aid of charity ?
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I am not forced to donate to any of them. Upon being nominated for the Ice Bucket, I am expected to do it and seen as a grumpy git if I don't. Charity should be a choice and not forced upon us.


Liverpoolphil said:
there isn't a pecking order of which are more deserving - they are all worth while causes
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Personally I feel that ALS/Macmillan has now had a lot of money and a charity that's going to get my money is one that hasn't just had a large injection of cash via a worldwide "fad". I can only donate so much a month and I must make a decision about whom I feel is most deserving at that time.
 
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