I think I sussed it!

swanny32

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For the last God knows how many years I have suffered with a nasty slice especially off the tee and with my long irons, I had lessons with a few different pro's but none of them were able to diagnose the problem so weren't able to fix me. Decided to have a lesson with the new pro at my golf club last year, bugger me he had me hitting the ball right to left within 10 minutes...he knew exactly what my problem was (coming over the top on an out to in swing path) and gave me a few drills to get me hitting it the opposite way.

Try as I might I just couldn't shift the left to right ball flight when out on the course, doing it in front of the pro on the range was fairly straight forward but out on the course I was struggling, I went through a period where I was able to control the fade a bit, when I say "control" I mean, it was less erratic but eventually it came back and in some cases worse than ever.

So, after 4 months out of action with a neck injury and finally being given the all clear to get back out on the course I thought I'd get out today while the weather was nice to make up for lost time. Couldn't find anyone to play with, so geared up, filled the juice bottle and headed out on my lonesome.

As you can imagine over the last 4 months of sitting around watching golf on the telly, I have had plenty of time to try and piece together a swing in my head, obviously, easier to do this in your head! I have thought long and hard about what my pro was telling me on the range, watching pro's on telly and imagining my swing in my head. Well, it's helped! Today everything clicked, it finally twigged what my pro has been banging on at me about while I was plodding around the course on my jack jones. Out of all the shots I hit today, one, just ONE had a left to right flight path, everything else was straight or with a touch of draw with the exception of my tee shot on the 7th when, to make sure I knew what I was doing, I purposely tried to hook one.......it HOOKED......straight into the trees.

Finally I feel like I know how to hit a golf ball and feel pretty confident in getting my handicap down to the mid/low teens this season. What also put a big smile on my face today was my short game, chipping to tap in distance and getting distances bang on and sticking the ball pin high.........I was so happy I even told the wife I loved her when I got home!

Now all that has been said I'll go out next time hit a slice every shot and feel like drowning myself in the water on the 17th.
 
I have had plenty of time to try and piece together a swing in my head, obviously, easier to do this in your head! I have thought long and hard about what my pro was telling me on the range, watching pro's on telly and imagining my swing in my head. Well, it's helped!

I believe this works! I used to do it a lot and I would spend way too much time practicing my swing in the lab while waiting for an experiment to run... I had just enough space to swing with my arms and work on my body turn.

Now I have started playing golf again I will get back into this habit.
 
I had a eureka moment swinging in the garden tonight. Suddenly got the feeling back of how I was hitting it a few months back, I wasnt starting the downswing with my hips but more altogether. Felt really good, can't wait to get on the course now!!
 
Well done for sorting it. But I must add those pro's can't have been much good. If they could not spot, An out to in over the top swing path.
 
what the pro as told you is correct if your happy with it ,then practice,practice,practice,,don't listen to any other advise until you have consistency with what you've worked on ,,then all you need to think about is making a birdy,,,easily said hard to do

good luck with the next round
 
Keep at it but don't be surprised if the eureka moment has the odd step back as well. The old brainbox can stubbornly refuse t compute what you are telling it sometimes and although you can stand there with a crystal clear image of yourself swinging it properly the time the message gets to the body, it has somehow got translated into Swahili and the limbs can no longer comprehend
 
Well done for sorting it. But I must add those pro's can't have been much good. If they could not spot, An out to in over the top swing path.
I dont like to say bad things about golf pro's but essentially yes, that is what I immediately thought when my new pro had me hitting a draw within 10 minutes.

I'm sure there will be times when the slice comes back or the new swing turns into a big hook, luckily though I have 3 lessons pre paid for with my pro....just in case!

Love thy pro!
 
If I can go back out there and do what I did today again then I'm happy that I have sussed it and can start developing other parts of my game. I used to beat myself up so much with my slice that I used to think that there wasn't much point in working on my pitching and chipping if it's taking me 4/5/6 shots to get down there, although luckily my short game has never been what I would call terrible.
 
Glad you are conquering it.

My slice off the tee is still in hiding mainly due to 2 things I believe. I dumped the Stiff shafted driver I was using and now have a regular shafted Draw Bias (anti slice) driver.

I also hunt around the Tee for 2 divots/marks which will help me use Bob's headcover drill.
 
I've also eased my slice by better alignment and picking a spot just in front of the ball to line upto, also keep looking at the ball for as long as possible helps stop my head coming up and dropping my left shoulder. Also a final note in swinging smooth and not trying to swing with all my might!
 
Glad you are conquering it.

My slice off the tee is still in hiding mainly due to 2 things I believe. I dumped the Stiff shafted driver I was using and now have a regular shafted Draw Bias (anti slice) driver.

I also hunt around the Tee for 2 divots/marks which will help me use Bob's headcover drill.


whats this?
 
Swanny, I really do hope you are right.

Will be interesting to see if this sticks, I certainly hope so. If it does and what with how I played yesterday (8 over par for 51 points off a 21 hcap) then Volvo Matchplay - you better watch out..........Swanny and I are coming for you!!!!
 
Swanny, I really do hope you are right.

Will be interesting to see if this sticks, I certainly hope so. If it does and what with how I played yesterday (8 over par for 51 points off a 21 hcap) then Volvo Matchplay - you better watch out..........Swanny and I are coming for you!!!!

I'm pretty confident fella, as small movement at the top of my backswing was getting me inside to out, when I exaggerated it I hit a massive hook, just a case of engraining that movement into my swing now.

51 points off 21........I'll be having words with Kevin soon!
 
I'm pretty confident fella, as small movement at the top of my backswing was getting me inside to out, when I exaggerated it I hit a massive hook, just a case of engraining that movement into my swing now.

It takes work, and a lot of it, I'll warn you now. I've been trying to get rid of an OTT, out to in swing for nearly a year now. I've just about got it, I think, but every now and then, it creeps back in.

Best of luck with it. I know how demoralising that swing can be!
 
It takes work, and a lot of it, I'll warn you now. I've been trying to get rid of an OTT, out to in swing for nearly a year now. I've just about got it, I think, but every now and then, it creeps back in.

Best of luck with it. I know how demoralising that swing can be!

I have been plagued with this OTT swing for the best part of 10 years now, partly due to me not really taking my golf all that seriously though so never bothered getting a lesson after the first guy failed miserably (apparently I wasn't releasing the club head properly.......never mentioned coming over the top at all), then the second guy said it was because I had a reverse pivot.....fixed that, still slicing.

Now I know what the problem is and finally I know how to correct it, bloody good feeling!
 
I have been plagued with this OTT swing for the best part of 10 years now, partly due to me not really taking my golf all that seriously though so never bothered getting a lesson after the first guy failed miserably (apparently I wasn't releasing the club head properly.......never mentioned coming over the top at all), then the second guy said it was because I had a reverse pivot.....fixed that, still slicing.

Now I know what the problem is and finally I know how to correct it, bloody good feeling!

Indeed it is. I played a few weeks ago with GB72 and a mate of his, and it was sheer joy watching the ball move from right to left all afternoon!
 
I am under no illusion that it'll still make an appearance from time to time but as long as it's not through the first 5 holes at my golf club then I'm happy! Going right on any of those holes puts you OB, same with 7 8 and 12....it's a little tight and when you have a slice it's a massively demoralizing golf course to play at times. The good thing is that on most holes you can aim as far left as you want.
 
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