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Well, it's another Monday and the weekend is over.
Hopefully, most of you managed to get out and play some golf.
My question is this...
How many of you hit an approach shot to a green that went through the back and off the green?
Not a thinned chip or pitch, a full shot, struck well but just too much club.
Compare with the same well struck shot, how many came up short and how many were just right.
No prizes for the best, just curious. :)
 
I played 9 holes on saturday and 15 yesterday (had to leave early to go to a 4th birthday party!!!!). Before any comment on my shots... i'd like to say it was very windy, even more so above the trees, and shot selection was very tricky. Any more windy and i wouldn't have bothered!

1st hole: landed left of green
2nd: through the back (lost the ball too!)
3rd: landed 1ft short of green
4th: through the back
5th: pitched on perfect
6th: short right in bunker
7th: through the back
8th: pitched on perfect
9th: pitched on perfect
10th: pitched through back
11th: short by 10ft off tee
12th: pitched short
13th: pitched short
14th: don't want to talk about it
15th: perfect length but ended up dropping into bunker immediatly right of hole
16th: didn't get to play it as i had to go to fore-mentioned party!
 
Not hit any through the green but played 45 holes in very very windy conditions over the course of the weekend and hit 34 of 45 greens in regulation.
 
I can see where your coming from Bob, but part the reason that people leave shots short rather than long is because it's the better of the 2 options. For example if your stuck between hitting a 7 or 8 iron then most people would probably go for the 8 in the knowledge if they leave it short then they will probably have a nice lie on the fairway, where as if they hit the 7 they might end up over the back in rough, trees etc.
 
None as I couldn't play. However in general terms since I got my SC I'm hitting more middle and back portions than I did before although it is rare for me to fly a green and I'm more likely to be short through a mishit (rather than a mis-club). Not using this to reignite the DMD device but an observation based on Bob's question
 
Well, it's another Monday and the weekend is over.
Hopefully, most of you managed to get out and play some golf.
My question is this...
How many of you hit an approach shot to a green that went through the back and off the green?
Not a thinned chip or pitch, a full shot, struck well but just too much club.
Compare with the same well struck shot, how many came up short and how many were just right.
No prizes for the best, just curious. :)
7 shanks that never went near the green (nor any other) and one shank that did indeed leave me with a 40 foot putt which lipped out.
God, this must be what rehab feels like!
 
1 - duffed 52* just on front
2 - pin high off the right - misjudged wind strength
3 - pin high off the left - misjudged wind speed
4 - middle of the green
5 - had to hack out from under a tree - therefore short (1)
6 - 6 ft past pin - just on back of green
7 - spun off front of green (2)
8 - par 5 - just short in 2 - chip & putt
9 - par 3 - 10 ft off back of green
10 - hack out from under tree
11 - pin high - left of green
12 - just short with rescue for 2nd on par 4 (3)
13 - pin high in reg'n
14 - pin high in reg'n
15 - par 5 just on in 2.
16 - long par 3 into wind - left rescue short after getting under it too much (4)
17 - Par 5 pitch pin high in reg'n
18 - lost ball from tee shot (don't know how) (5)


Therefore I left 5 short of the green: 2 due to drive in bad position, 1 due to spinning off front, 1 from mishitting into wind, 1 due to not being able to hit any further.

1 shot was over the back (mainly from over clubbing with a strong wind behind)

Most of my shots were approx pin high, not all on the green however.

I think it's safe to say that my long game was quite good despite a strong wind & that my GPS device has started to pay dividends.
 
Drove well on sunday 9/13, and hit a majority of good iron shots, a few bad ones, although my chipping close to the green was poor, only had two single putts one at the 3rd and the other at the 18th.



1st hole: missed green right by 3 feet
2nd: bunker left, up and down for par.
3rd: just a little long 3 feet
4th: Perfect, missed 15 foot for par
5th: Chipped to heavy to back of green, good 2 putt
6th: pitched short
7th: Par 3 tee shot to long, 1 club to many
8th: pitched short
9th: good chip over water to green, good 2 putt
10th: Trouble 2 poor shots in rough picked up.
11th: pulled tee shot chipped through green
12th: pin high left of green
13th: chip 4 foot short of green
14th: 6iron 12 foot short of green
15th: Skied tee shot short
16th: perfect chip 12 foot short of pin, missed putt
17th: thinned chip through the green
18th: pulled shot into tree protecting left hand side of the green, ball drops into the pond. After drop hit the flag with my chip one putt.
 
Not hit any through the green but played 45 holes in very very windy conditions over the course of the weekend and hit 34 of 45 greens in regulation.

Very good numbers in windy weather, are you close to scratch yet? :D
 
I can see where your coming from Bob, but part the reason that people leave shots short rather than long is because it's the better of the 2 options. For example if your stuck between hitting a 7 or 8 iron then most people would probably go for the 8 in the knowledge if they leave it short then they will probably have a nice lie on the fairway, where as if they hit the 7 they might end up over the back in rough, trees etc.

Where is the trouble on your course?
 
I can see where your coming from Bob, but part the reason that people leave shots short rather than long is because it's the better of the 2 options. For example if your stuck between hitting a 7 or 8 iron then most people would probably go for the 8 in the knowledge if they leave it short then they will probably have a nice lie on the fairway, where as if they hit the 7 they might end up over the back in rough, trees etc.

Where is the trouble on your course?

The greens :p
 
I can see where your coming from Bob, but part the reason that people leave shots short rather than long is because it's the better of the 2 options. For example if your stuck between hitting a 7 or 8 iron then most people would probably go for the 8 in the knowledge if they leave it short then they will probably have a nice lie on the fairway, where as if they hit the 7 they might end up over the back in rough, trees etc.

Where is the trouble on your course?

I would say that on 15 of the holes I would rather be short than long

Also after reading some other posts I think that there is another factor. Say someone has 150 yard to the pin and they hit a 7 iron this distance when hit well. They therefore go with a 7, but dont always hit it flush out the middle of the club etc therefore they often come up short. Its probaly not often that the average amateur hits their optimum distance with each approach shot
 
Thinking back through yesterdays round I came up short of the green once , a 210 yd par 3 into a strong head wind.

Several ended up just off the right edge and several short of the pin but on the green just fine.

It's more about the pin position for me rather than coming up short. If it's a back pin then I will err on the safe side and not go after it. If its at the front then I can be a bit bolder without worrying about going through the back etc etc

BM is right too , in that on pretty much all of the holes it's better to be short than long as it's a better lie on the nicely cut apron rather than over the back and down a rough slope etc
 
It's more about the pin position for me rather than coming up short. If it's a back pin then I will err on the safe side and not go after it. If its at the front then I can be a bit bolder without worrying about going through the back etc etc

On anything longer than say an 8 iron I will go for the middle of the green (unless it's a very long green, or very slopey).
 
When hit well I'm pretty bang on with distance my problem is hitting it well anywhere near consistently. That said our greens are quite deep so a club too strong is unlikely to clear the back so I often err on the side of caution and club up, especially when further away.
 
This year i've been hitting good approaches, hitting 62% of the greens in Reg. Of those i've missed, 14% were long and 43% short.

missed the others pretty much equally left and right.
 
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