Help with my Society Scoring

[pokerroyalty]

Hello - I am hoping to find someone on this forum who is a) an expert in scoring different formats and b) doesnt mind helping me as I am organising a society in a few weeks. We have got four different formats (although i dont need help with the singles). I would like to get up and running and mark the cards with the first format so I am ready to go. The first format is 'summer scotch foursomes' (both parnters drive choose best ball and then alternate shot)....i have the following match ups in handicaps...

8 & 22 v 15 & 22
21 & 12 v 14 & 24
21 & 26 v 24 & 13
18 & 18 v 17 & 26
28 & 28 v 28 & 28!!!!

I have consulted the internet and get a little confused with the terminology (ie 3/4 of the joint etc). I want to learn but if someone could break it down for me to the basics I would really appreciate it! Many thanks

 

[full_throttle]

I would suggest you play of half the combined

8+22=30 playing h/c 15 15+22=37 playing h/c 19

8 & 22 v 15 & 22 - 15 v 19
21 & 12 v 14 & 24 - 17 v 19
21 & 26 v 24 & 13 - 24 v 19
18 & 18 v 17 & 26 - 18 v 22
28 & 28 v 28 & 28!!!! - 28 v 28


if you play off any higher then the last group would be playing of (56 x 0.75) 42

hope this helps

 

[DCB]

'summer scotch foursomes' (both parnters drive choose best ball and then alternate shot).​

Ah, you mean Greensomes

If that's the case then there's a specific formula for working out strokes allowed for the handicaps.

 

[pokerroyalty]

Greensomes! oh yes - much more straight forward. the half the combined might work? is this acceptable? thanks for posting chaps

 

[AmandaJR]

Greensomes! oh yes - much more straight forward. the half the combined might work? is this acceptable? thanks for posting chaps

Greensomes is usually 0.4 of the highest handicap in the pair and 0.6 of the lowest. Add together including the decimal places and you have your pairings allowance.

 

[rosecott]

Hello - I am hoping to find someone on this forum who is a) an expert in scoring different formats and b) doesnt mind helping me as I am organising a society in a few weeks. We have got four different formats (although i dont need help with the singles). I would like to get up and running and mark the cards with the first format so I am ready to go. The first format is 'summer scotch foursomes' (both parnters drive choose best ball and then alternate shot)....i have the following match ups in handicaps...

8 & 22 v 15 & 22
21 & 12 v 14 & 24
21 & 26 v 24 & 13
18 & 18 v 17 & 26
28 & 28 v 28 & 28!!!!

I have consulted the internet and get a little confused with the terminology (ie 3/4 of the joint etc). I want to learn but if someone could break it down for me to the basics I would really appreciate it! Many thanks

As DCB says, you're talking about Greensomes. The recommended handicap for each pair is lower x .6 plus higher x .4 which gives you the Greensomes handicap for the pair and, assuming it's matchplay, the full difference applies. By my calculations the situation is:
Pair 1 gives Pair 2 "4 shots"
Pair 3 gives Pair 4 "2 shots"
Pair 5 receives "6 shots" from Pair 6
Pair 7 gives Pair 8 "3 shots"
Pairs 9 and 10 no shots given or received.

If it's not matchplay, the handicaps for the pairs (in order shown) is 14, 18, 16, 18, 23, 17, 18, 21, 28, 28.

 

[full_throttle]

As the organiser you get to choose the format and handicap etc.


stroke play would make the scoring easier than stableford, just deduct the pairs h/c allowance from their gross score

 

[pokerroyalty]

Thanks so much for the advice. I think that has solved it for me. The next format is a simple fourball matchplay so I am ok with that as i believe eveyone just plays their handicap and lowest score wins the hole.I am going to research the third format which is going to be a 2 v 2 scramble but i know where to come if i get stuck...thanks again everyone!

 

[full_throttle]

Fourball Matchplay is a different formula.

The lowest h/c player gets 0 shots and the rest get 3/4 the difference.

I'll use the same pairings as above as an example

8 & 22 v 15 & 22 8 plays off 0, 15 off 5 and 22 off 11
21 & 12 v 14 & 24 12 plays off 0, 14 off 2, 21 off 5 and 24 off 8
21 & 26 v 24 & 13 13 plays off 0, 21 off 6, 24 off 8 and 26 off 10
18 & 18 v 17 & 26 17 plays off 0, 18 off 1 and 26 off 7
28 & 28 v 28 & 28!!!! - no shots given

shots to be taken in accordance of course stroke index

 

[full_throttle]

two man scramble, I would use 1/2 handicap as in greensomes, but each player must have 7 drives that are chosen

 

[duncan mackie]

two man scramble, I would use 1/2 handicap as in greensomes, but each player must have 7 drives that are chosen

greensomes isn't half handicap - but I would agree that 50% is an appropriate 2 man scramble handicap basis.

 

[full_throttle]

Ok, lets stand back a little and have a little think about the OP.

Its a society FFS, I'm sure the organiser wants to mess about with a calculator working out handicaps to 0.6 and 0.4, so to make it simple just use 1/2

 

[duncan mackie]

Ok, lets stand back a little and have a little think about the OP.

Its a society FFS, I'm sure the organiser wants to mess about with a calculator working out handicaps to 0.6 and 0.4, so to make it simple just use 1/2

of course you are correct - and I'm sure they won't want to 'mess about' with any other inconvenient golf rules when playing either.

 

[pokerroyalty]

Dont fall out on my account - it was pretty easy to do the 0.6 0.4 calculations and actually tipped the advantage in my teams direction so will definitely adhere to the rules! really want to thank you all again. terrific help