Have you a Nemesis hole at your club?

[kid2]

For the last 3 rounds now iv blown up on our 18th.....
3 weeks on the trot iv been 3 under 2 under and today after a flaking battle with our back nine i was stood 1 under standing on the 18th.....

I was playing pretty well the putts were lipping instead of falling but the rest of my game was good.....
I was comfortable hitting a little cut with my driver all day finding fairways and only once did it cost me a bad shot on the 15th off the tee and forced to play a provisional and walk off with a double bogie.....

So with the confidence fairly high on 18 i hit driver but over cooked the cut and went OOB......Reloaded and hit the middle of the fairway and left a 9 iron in....Hit this perfect and pitched past the hole about 2 feet and ran off the green....After that i 3 putted for a poor 7......

How do you overcome a bad hole at the end of a round.....
Course management would tell me to hit hybrid or a 4 iron and lay up short of the fairway bunkers and the OOB which cuts out from the right side of the fairway...That would bring all the trouble out of play....But when i was driving the ball well the confidence was up until the inevitable happened!

So how do i play this next week.....Do i surrender to the driver on this hole for the sake of safe play/course management.....At 370 metres its not overly long but hitting a 4 iron here would mean an approach to a small green would be from at least 200mtrs....

3 wood brings the pot bunker into play on the left side of the fairway and if i catch it out of the screws im also dicing with the OOB.....

Im kind of at a loose end now as to how to go about nailing this hole....

I dont think that trying to protect a score of 1 under is the way to go as its a hole that can be easily bogied if played too safe.....
Also iv birdied this and parred it heaps of times as well....

 

[GreiginFife]

I have two nemesis holes. One is an innocuous lookkng par 3. 165yds but to a raised plateau green, steep run off all round. One I struggle on.
Second one is a 535yd par 5 and its tight with OOB and water down the right and dep bundu all the way down the left. Nightmare hole for me.

Apart from those two its plain sailing...

 

[drawboy]

Our 18th, par 5 I chuffing hate this hole. I cannot fade a ball, straight,yep, draw, no problem. It is an out and out fade off the tee, no option if you go straight, trees on left, draw it, trees on right. I really struggle to get a tee shot away so am on the back foot straight away. It stuffs me week in week out.

 

[kid2]

Our 18th, par 5 I chuffing hate this hole. I cannot fade a ball, straight,yep, draw, no problem. It is an out and out fade off the tee, no option if you go straight, trees on left, draw it, trees on right. I really struggle to get a tee shot away so am on the back foot straight away. It stuffs me week in week out.

How the bloody hell do we get round these DB?......
I mean look down the fairway at our 18th and it looks straight forward and pretty easy....
If you drive the ball well it leaves nothing but a mid iron or wedge in.....
Th OOB and the pot bunker sit at 150mtrs to the green so you need at least 225mtrs (250 yards) of carry to clear these.....

Now on a good hit i can do this but when you catch the driver a little off then everything comes into play......

 

[SharkAttack]

Just two problems at my course-

1- 1st hole
2- Other 17 holes

apart from them the course is easy.

 

[Grumps]

I'm afraid it's the last 2 holes for me nearly every time I muck up one or the other

 

[duncan mackie]

back 8 for me - but then again when we used to have separate stableford SIs they covered 8 of the 9 shots I received!

 

[Tree seeker]

3rd and 5th at my course. (Westerham)

3rd is wide open to the right but i somehow manage to hook it into the trees to the left 90% of the time.

The 5th has a tight tree line both left and right of the tee then opens up more to the right after about 140 yards or so. No matter what club i use i seem to catch a magic gust of wind that takes me into the trees on the right.

 

[One Planer]

9th at my track.

There's a set of conifers at about 130 off the tee that angle out at about 45* onto the fairway, making it very narrow before hitting the wide section of the fairway further down.

For the last month now, every tee shot has hit the conifers!!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I don't think of any hole as a nemesis. Some are harder for me than others, particularly the short 178 yard par 3 6th. I have played it poorly in recent times but it doens't make it a nemesis and I think of it as bad execution. In the last few weeks I've made a few pars so it can be done.

Sometimes you need to find a different way to play a hole. I had issues going OB on the 16th which is a real tight driving hole. I started to aim for the right side and if I drew/hooked it was playable. Hit it straight towards the semi and I'd look to lay up to 100-120 yards and use my shot and make bogey (net par). In the summer (remember that) I can get away with 3 wood instead.

Its about negating the mistakes, not compounding those you make and using your shots. There is no such thing as a nemesis hole

 

[drawboy]

Ah! the word of a master....wax on,wax off.

 

[drawboy]

How the bloody hell do we get round these DB?......
I mean look down the fairway at our 18th and it looks straight forward and pretty easy....
If you drive the ball well it leaves nothing but a mid iron or wedge in.....
Th OOB and the pot bunker sit at 150mtrs to the green so you need at least 225mtrs (250 yards) of carry to clear these.....

Now on a good hit i can do this but when you catch the driver a little off then everything comes into play......

K2, I just resign myself to the fact I'm going to suffer on the hole. Yesterday in the club championship I'm standing on the 18th tee level par gross for the back 9, not 1 dropped shot. I came off with an 8. Now that is only 3 over for the back 9 but all on the one hole AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

 

[kev_off_the_tee]

The par 5 7th at garesfield. Its the easiest hole on the course but I just cant par it.

I put it down to trying to hard to get on the green in 2 but I'm trying to talking myself out of ripping the face off the ball in favour of thinking my way to the green. Sadly I'm failing

 

[duncan mackie]

3rd and 5th at my course. (Westerham)

3rd is wide open to the right but i somehow manage to hook it into the trees to the left 90% of the time.

The 5th has a tight tree line both left and right of the tee then opens up more to the right after about 140 yards or so. No matter what club i use i seem to catch a magic gust of wind that takes me into the trees on the right.

ah - it's not just me then! I cut it into the trees left on 3 every time, and then draw it nicely into the trees right of 5..........

(left hander!)

 

[kid2]

K2, I just resign myself to the fact I'm going to suffer on the hole. Yesterday in the club championship I'm standing on the 18th tee level par gross for the back 9, not 1 dropped shot. I came off with an 8. Now that is only 3 over for the back 9 but all on the one hole AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

Its a sickener isnt it?
Ill figure a way round it yet.....Once i get the driver under a bit of control it'll be a walk in the park...

 

[labatudgm]

I think this thread shows the real problem for club members - we carry the bad shots we have hit on holes with us for a long time. I stand on my 'nemesis' par 3 knowing I haven't hit the green in ages and there you go another missed green, my 'nemesis' par 4 I can't hit the fairway for love nor money - in the trees I go. 'nemesis' par 5 OOB right off tee - where did that block/fade/slice come from - o yeah I remember the other 20 times I've done that !
read a GM tip recently (last one or two) that changed things (slightly) for the better namely change the story - don't do the same thing - change the club, shot or target whatever to change the challenge of the hole.
Its worked well for me - par 3 I hit one more club and fade it off a bunker - better result. Par 4 - hit hybrid not driver and now don't get to the trees. Par 5 - play as 3 shotter - 2 x 4 iron then wedge to green instead of blasting away with driver. You can go back to the old ways but I bet for a while your nemesis holes change !

 

[kid2]

I think this thread shows the real problem for club members - we carry the bad shots we have hit on holes with us for a long time. I stand on my 'nemesis' par 3 knowing I haven't hit the green in ages and there you go another missed green, my 'nemesis' par 4 I can't hit the fairway for love nor money - in the trees I go. 'nemesis' par 5 OOB right off tee - where did that block/fade/slice come from - o yeah I remember the other 20 times I've done that !
read a GM tip recently (last one or two) that changed things (slightly) for the better namely change the story - don't do the same thing - change the club, shot or target whatever to change the challenge of the hole.
Its worked well for me - par 3 I hit one more club and fade it off a bunker - better result. Par 4 - hit hybrid not driver and now don't get to the trees. Par 5 - play as 3 shotter - 2 x 4 iron then wedge to green instead of blasting away with driver. You can go back to the old ways but I bet for a while your nemesis holes change !

Thats good info Laba......
The more i read what you've said the more sense it starts to make......
When i stand on our 18th 2 things cross my mind.....Stay away from the OOB and carry the bunker.....Ill need to try the reverse psychology i think.

 

[williamalex1]

with me every hole has taken a turn at being the bogey hole at some time

 

[ScienceBoy]

I used to, the 15th at South Winch, always made a mess of it. Long ar 4 SI 1 with lake an OB right and wood down the left.

Once I started laying up and pitching on it became an easy 5 or an infrequent 4 and I stopped scoring 7s and 8s on it.

 

[kid2]

I used to, the 15th at South Winch, always made a mess of it. Long ar 4 SI 1 with lake an OB right and wood down the left.

Once I started laying up and pitching on it became an easy 5 or an infrequent 4 and I stopped scoring 7s and 8s on it.

This for me is clever SB......Iv noticed also that there are some holes that you can make bogie on and sometimes like you say an infrequent par.....
What i say to myself is usually....Ok ill take my medicine here and get that shot back somewhere else in the round....It usually works....
I think that its also part of course management.