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No not that - it was too cold and I needed to be fully wrapped up. :eek:

I popped into the range at Pease Pottage and was having a chat with the young lad there, and he offered me a free swing analysis.

Now I've had this before, and it's just been a blatant tool just to sign you up for lessons. But this was slightly different - a proper analysis of what I do wrong, and an idea of how they can help me put it right, with a quick freebie lessonette, and video proof of how 20 minutes work has helped my swing.

The obvious idea is then to get me to go back for the full set of lessons. But again, no hard sellbecause these aren't just ordinary teaching pros, they use ........( cue drum roll )

The Right Sided Golf method.

It meant nothing to me, but it seems increadibly simple, and not quite so quirky as S&T.

Does anyone know anything about it?

Has anyone every tried it ?

TBH I can see how it can be useful to make a very repetitive swing, and a consistant ball strike.

But I have my doubts about distance.

What with the weather today, and the range balls, preanalysis I was hitting my 5I about 140yards ( to pitching - not including role ), which is about right for me at this junction. It'd equate to about 160 with a proper ball during the summer, which will do for now.

Post analysis and lesson, I hit the 5I about 125 - 130 ish. But none were heavy, and the slice had all but disappeared. I'm assured that that will be more than compensated with a slightly fuller, and faster, swing - you can't build Rome in a day, and all that.

So I open it up for discussion please.

Tell me all about Right Sided Golf - pros and cons, and opinions on whether it's worth trying it for the next 2-3 months on the range, so I can bed it in before I start next season on the course.

My initial impression, I have to admit, was very positive ( which surprised me, tbh )

:D
 
I'm guessing that the main theory is to resist turning your hips therefore keeping a solid base and having less moving parts.

Kinda looks like what I try and do, never realised there was a name for it.

Down falls are that most people will find it hard to complete a decent shoulder turn (unless a bit flexable) which could in turn make players complete the swing with arms and wrists and swing flatter to compensate.

I hit the ball miles by doing this due to the fact I limit the hip turn and still rotate my shoulders to between 80 - 90 degrees. However if you find by limiting your hip turn you can only turn your shoulders 50 degrees (for example) you may lose a good amount of power.

Work on your flexability and it'll work for you.

Room for any critism below.
 
I'm guessing that the main theory is to resist turning your hips therefore keeping a solid base and having less moving parts.

Down falls are that most people will find it hard to complete a decent shoulder turn (unless a bit flexable) which could in turn make players complete the swing with arms and wrists and swing flatter to compensate.

I hit the ball miles by doing this due to the fact I limit the hip turn and still rotate my shoulders to between 80 - 90 degrees. However if you find by limiting your hip turn you can only turn your shoulders 50 degrees (for example) you may lose a good amount of power.
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Yeah, sounds about right. I only had a quick go at it, and my worries are about the shoulder turn.

Looking at the vids on youtube it seems that one can moove the left knee slightly forward to allow more shoulder turn, but the main compensation is made by increasing swing speed.

Because the swing is so simple, the centrifugal force created can be as quick as you like, and not affect the ability to make a clean strike.
 
From what I remember, simplified down, its just about keeping your posture and angles the same throughout the swing.
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He definately mentioned that.

From memory isn't it the same sort of thing, although maybe by another name, that Tom Watson does with his swing ?

My logic at the moment is going something like ...

I've had my swing in various guises for 30 odd years, during which time I've forgotten most of the good habits, and I naturally have loads of small bad habits.

The total of which is a bad swing.

To compensate for this I would have to correct lots of different small things. And getting each and every one of them into my muscle memory will be a nightmare. Otherwise I'll continuously, subconciously, switch back to my old ways.

So if I try something that has a totally different setup, but thereafter is very simple, I can get all the problems out of the way before I physically start the actual swing itself.

Thus making it easier to play consistantly with a half decent, repetitive stroke

What makes you think I'm confusing myself with all this ?
 
How are you at dominoes? ;) :p JK

There's no doubt that after 30 years of tinkering, there will be lots of ghosts in your swing.
If you can change the way you approach each swing and keep it simple, that will improve your consistency.
If you have a problem with your contact, keep your head still.
If its direction thats the problem, be aware of your swing direction.
etc etc.
Just having one simple swing thought will help I'm sure
Good luck :)
 
I kinda discovered a similar swing on the range. Basically keep the body very still and swing the arms round until the tension in the torso wants to bring it back. It is a tight little swing but avoids some of the usual swing problems such as over the top because the shoulders don't move into a position where you can go OTT. Still legs too, which avoids a few other problems.
 
Ah, good old Luke and Steve... and the reverse K. I wasn't overly impressed by it. I'm crap at hitting a ball with my right shoulder tipped over... keep scuffing it

Nice to see your swing on video though isn't it... I hope you got them to email you a copy of it?
 
Ah, good old Luke and Steve... and the reverse K. I wasn't overly impressed by it. I'm crap at hitting a ball with my right shoulder tipped over... keep scuffing it
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Funny that.

I found that by keeping my body more still, I got a better contact.

BTW who the feck is Steve ?
 
I found that by keeping my body more still, I got a better contact.
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Oh crikey... here we go again, thanks mate!! :p <wink>
I won't mention stack and tilt... oh crap! I did :o

I did look quite seriously at the right sided thing (seeing as it's based so close to me) but decided that hitting the ball with my arms (the small muscles) wasn't as powerful or consistant than hitting it with my core in fact I didn't get any feeling of striking down on the ball at all, it was more like I had to flick at the ball to get it airborne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0uW14gnb6o

I would rate it as a 2/10, I hated it, I'd rather THROW the ball :D

The only thing I like about it is that it's another swing that doesn't advocate a weightshift to the right thereby reassuring my thoughts about... erm, stick and talc :p
 
... I would add that due to the nature of the swing (standing still and swinging the arms back and thru) it WILL make you swing the club from the inside giving you the impression that you suddenly learned how to draw the ball.... albeit with the power of a flea :)
 
... I would add that due to the nature of the swing (standing still and swinging the arms back and thru) it WILL make you swing the club from the inside giving you the impression that you suddenly learned how to draw the ball.... albeit with the power of a flea :)
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As you're the only person that seems to have tried it, I'll ask you a question :

If Daniel Vancsik hits his drives 320 yds plus, and Rod Pampling averages 285 yards ( Peter Lonard only averages 280 odd - the wimp :rolleyes: ) then how do they create their power / distance ?

I mean, I've seen you slap at a ball, and talk about the power of a flea, aren't fleas meant to be pro rata one of the strongest things alive.

Although I can understand if you're talking about them struggling to grip a 45" driver.









Actually that's a serious question.

I reckon I could use the swing to hit the ball cleanly and straight, but coz I'm such a pussy muscled wimp, I need to have some hope about reaching the green before the sun goes down.

:D
 
If Daniel Vancsik hits his drives 320 yds plus, and Rod Pampling averages 285 yards ( Peter Lonard only averages 280 odd - the wimp :rolleyes: ) then how do they create their power / distance ?
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That's nit picking mate :D There will always be someone who can hit the ball miles even if you tied their hands behind their back. Vancsik hit about 56% of fairways in 2009 so he's spending a lot of time in the trees, Molinari is probably about 80% and made some money. Can you imagine how gutted you'd feel if you only hit half the fairways when we play? Oh wait, you know that feeling :D hehe

I know you reckon that you could do with hitting the ball further so is it distance or consistancy that you're after?
 
I know you reckon that you could do with hitting the ball further so is it distance or consistancy that you're after?
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BOTH , of course :D

The good thing I felt about it was it WILL be very easy to achieve a decent level of consistancy.

But there was no suggestion of where the power comes from.

I reckon that with my physique I should be good to hit a drive 230 - 260 ( yards not inches :o ), which would then give me about 210 - 220 for a 3W.

That would then give me 200 yds for my 5W, 3I-180yds, 5I-160yds etc.

With those distances it'd be down to me to get as consistant/low as I want.

But if I'm only ever going to be able hit a 5I 130yds, I dont think I'd ever be happy

;)
 
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