stevie_r
Tour Winner
And you think that in the current climate with the clamor to retain/ attract members that that is a sensible stance to take?
Good and bad etiquette
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And you think that in the current climate with the clamor to retain/ attract members that that is a sensible stance to take?
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Some people really do overrate how important they and knockout comp matches are lol. What do you get for winning the knockout comp at your club, must be one helluva prize 
No such rule at our place, pace of play the only dictator and if someone teed it up in a match on a bank holiday morning and expected to get grace of the course and play through whoever they wanted then I expect they would get short shrift from the majority.
Have been in the situ where Ive had to play a singles match on a saturday morning to meet a deadline, by doing so we accepted we'd be playing a course that was moving at 4 ball pace, would expect others in the same situation to do the same
No such rule at our place, pace of play the only dictator and if someone teed it up in a match on a bank holiday morning and expected to get grace of the course and play through whoever they wanted then I expect they would get short shrift from the majority.
Have been in the situ where Ive had to play a singles match on a saturday morning to meet a deadline, by doing so we accepted we'd be playing a course that was moving at 4 ball pace, would expect others in the same situation to do the same
Foxholer
Blackballed
No idea. Not a problem for me. I accept it, so reasonable/sensible for me - as long as there aren't abuses!
Whether it is for anyone else is a matter for them. There are more important attitudes and things to change at most Clubs imo.
Played yesterday myself during a comp. our club decided to stager tees. First went out for an hour. Then second lot went out an hour later. Off the tenth??
so it blocked the whole course.
After four holes a two ball father and teenage son caught us. As in no rush we let them through. The comp players didn't as players waiting on every tee due to early players reach 10th shortly after second batch started their rounds. Got half way down tenth fairway only to hear "fore". Turns out the 2 ball had gone for a drink and set off again. We were quite a way down fairway and ball nowhere near us so thought nothing of it. They caught us on 11tee and asked to pay through. We explained that if we fell behind the group in front we would let them. But having let them through on e already we wouldn't be doing so again. On the 16th they teed again when we were clearly in range. No shout of fore fortunately ball went nowhere near us.
On the 18th we were just walking off green when balls landed. No excuse for this as it's not a mishit to aim at the green on 18. Par 5 over small pond where only the longest (they weren't) take it in two. So they could clearly see it wasn't free. Fortunate, before I could get a chance to hit the ball back to them (removing it from green first). The Marshall calmy came over, picked ball up and asked the to leave.
Aopeared done same to another group when catching up on front 9.
Some me people are just muppets with no respect.
That said, club didn't help with staggered tee.
so it blocked the whole course.
After four holes a two ball father and teenage son caught us. As in no rush we let them through. The comp players didn't as players waiting on every tee due to early players reach 10th shortly after second batch started their rounds. Got half way down tenth fairway only to hear "fore". Turns out the 2 ball had gone for a drink and set off again. We were quite a way down fairway and ball nowhere near us so thought nothing of it. They caught us on 11tee and asked to pay through. We explained that if we fell behind the group in front we would let them. But having let them through on e already we wouldn't be doing so again. On the 16th they teed again when we were clearly in range. No shout of fore fortunately ball went nowhere near us.
On the 18th we were just walking off green when balls landed. No excuse for this as it's not a mishit to aim at the green on 18. Par 5 over small pond where only the longest (they weren't) take it in two. So they could clearly see it wasn't free. Fortunate, before I could get a chance to hit the ball back to them (removing it from green first). The Marshall calmy came over, picked ball up and asked the to leave.
Aopeared done same to another group when catching up on front 9.
Some me people are just muppets with no respect.
That said, club didn't help with staggered tee.
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c1973
Guest
Apologies, never picked up on it being a club rule for comps (speed reading the OP), that being the case I would of course offer to let you through if I knew it was a comp. :thup:
However, I stand by my comment of not accepting an invite to play through if there was nowhere to go.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I went on to explain why it should - basically out of courtesy to players in a match.
stevie_r
Tour Winner
It still shouldn't.
North Mimms
Tour Winner
I'm not convinced by the idea of club comps taking priority over bounce games.
Surely if you are in a match or playing a medal, you will want to take the full 5 minutes to locate a rogue ball.
In a bounce game or match, you'll let it go or drop another as it isn't that important.
So Club comps can run slower...
Surely if you are in a match or playing a medal, you will want to take the full 5 minutes to locate a rogue ball.
In a bounce game or match, you'll let it go or drop another as it isn't that important.
So Club comps can run slower...
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
Actually, the last one tee'd off after I got to the tee. One of her PPs looked back at me before she tee'd off, watched her tee off, ignored the club rule that they should have stood aside to allow us to continue. Looked backed again shortly after they left the tee and again before she hit her second shot.
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Deleted member 15344
Guest
Thats poor
Happened to us last week also
Have a rule that you cant go off the tenth if
1. The first is empty - it was
2. If there is a group on the 9th hole - we were
As we were walking to the 10th they rushed to the tee and quickly teed off - i politely asked why they were using the 10th not the first
"because we prefer the back 9 first"
I said thats fine but club rules state you cant tee off the 10th if the first is empty and someone is on the 9th
" We didnt think it would be a problem"
Thankfully the pro arrived and then instructed the ladies to the 1st !
The ladies complained about my FC because it appears he was rude to them when saying thank you ?
upsidedown
Tour Winner
Heading down to the first tee this morning and waved a cheery 'Good Morning' to the three ball who had held us up and they came across and offered their apologies as they'd not realised we were a Foursomes match and could I pass on their apologies to the other players Apologies accepted and passed on .
Apologies accepted and passed on .
bobmac
Major Champion
Comps only have priority on the first tee (if the tee time is booked).
After that, they should wait like everyone else if it's busy.
The idea that their match is more 'important' than any other game and therefor must be called through, is ludicrous in my opinion.
But if that's the club rule then call them through you must.
After that, they should wait like everyone else if it's busy.
The idea that their match is more 'important' than any other game and therefor must be called through, is ludicrous in my opinion.
But if that's the club rule then call them through you must.
upsidedown
Tour Winner
The last two clubs I've belonged to , it has been the case that Knockout matches have priority on the course.
They will in the main be two balls , foursomes and better ball , so with concessions could move at a smart pace so it seems to me to common courtesy to be called through.
The other night , in our 4BBB knockout we called through two pairs who were playing their singles knockout, no dramas, no fuss.
They will in the main be two balls , foursomes and better ball , so with concessions could move at a smart pace so it seems to me to common courtesy to be called through.
The other night , in our 4BBB knockout we called through two pairs who were playing their singles knockout, no dramas, no fuss.
North Mimms
Tour Winner
Heading down to the first tee this morning and waved a cheery 'Good Morning' to the three ball who had held us up and they came across and offered their apologies as they'd not realised we were a Foursomes match and could I pass on their apologies to the other players
I don't know how other players on the course are expected to know that another group is playing a knockout
Jack_bfc
Challenge Tour Pro
Comps only have priority on the first tee (if the tee time is booked).
After that, they should wait like everyone else if it's busy.
The idea that their match is more 'important' than any other game and therefor must be called through, is ludicrous in my opinion.
But if that's the club rule then call them through you must.
If it's the clubs rule , it's an odd one! I agree with the above sentiment entirely
upsidedown
Tour Winner
I don't know how other players on the course are expected to know that another group is playing a knockout
The match is played off the whites and everyone else is off the yellows. Sometimes when the tees are close can be hard to tell yes but most folks soon realise.
You suddenly see a different set of golfers behind you and then check to see which tees they go to and if whites call them through :thup:
At the end of the day, how long are we talking about. If you let a match, especially foursomes through on a par four or five, you're waiting on just two tee shots and two seconds. Five-Eight minutes tops and then no more pressure. Even a pairs it's not much longer than ten minutes. To me it's common sense and good manners. To be fair, aside from club comps and certain peak times where roll ups go out, the course isn't that rammed and so plenty of room to let others through
stevie_r
Tour Winner
Is general play not permitted from the whites?
BTatHome
Tour Winner
Wouldn't work here, as many of our players use the whites when playing bounce games, we have very few restrictions on using the whites as members.
SVB
Challenge Tour Pro
As an aside, why are 'bounce' games call 'bounce'. I guess it means social or friendly games but many use the term on this forum but it is the only place I have heard the term?
(Having said that I do live in the sticks and my mother does think lol means lots of love, which yes, was applied to a text consoling my wife when the cat died, so i am happy to accept it is me and I should know!)
Simon
