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Why did we decide to have the qualifiers in the middle of bloody winter? Crap weather, crap course conditions, player inactivity, closed courses, trolley bans that although it doesn't affect me it does the oldies and the lazy ones amount us, the list goes on...

I have played 1 round this year and even though it was a great sunny winter morning the course was soaked. My qualifier is on the 2nd of March I think it is and I can't see me getting many rounds in before then.

Not having a pop as the guys have worked hard to put this on which is great for the forum but the timing seems off. Is it to reduce green fees?
 

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Not having a pop as the guys have worked hard to put this on which is great for the forum but the timing seems off. Is it to reduce green fees?

A couple of reasons I believe, one of which you've already alluded to.

Most green fees start going up as we get past March and as well as the £10 entry fee, it could start being a costly day if you also factor in travel. This gives the most opportunity to play decent courses for a reasonable price. I know the prices at Ealing would be almost double if we played in June.

The other reason is that it allows us to get the qualifier done before everyone's main season starts proper and people miss it because of conflicts. This also means that there is more time for those that qualify for the final to make arrangements of getting there / staying over etc.

The cost also comes into play with the final as it's likely to be more expensive if we qualified later and thus have the final in late August. Means we can play a course like Hillside for a reasonable amount per person.

Lastly, it avoided bringing in any conflict with the final being too close to the HFH day at the end of the season. After all the amazing work Rick and Rich do for that, we didn't want to detract anything from that day and it really starts gathering pace from late Summer onwards.


It's the first year, and it may be something that is changed totally next year, but this was the best way to get the most people involved, for the cheapest price, on the best courses :)
 

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As James has already pointed out, I personally didn't want this tournament to be anywhere near the H4H day. Another good point is that this is year one of the tournament. If there is to be a year two, we will learn from our mistakes and successes!

I would say though that the Scottish qualifier is taking place at the end of March at the Home Of Golf. I'll be very disappointed if the course was in poor conditions then!!
 

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Fair enough guys, keep up the hard work :thup:

Sorry Dave, I didn't mean the above to come off as overly defensive! I'm as frustrated as anyone with not being able to get out and play much at the moment.

Hopefully all will be ok by March (ours is the very end of the month) and everyone has a good day out! Just checking on HDID we were back playing qualifiers with some good scores in March and so fingers crossed the course will be as good this year.
 

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The KOKS (King of Kings Scotland) qualifier is perfect timing for me - I'll have played another six or seven rounds by then, another couple of lessons in that time too and my winter practice has all been geared to being playing better than normal by that time - It's given me something to aim for over the winter.

We could seriously play our qualifier this week as far as course conditions are concerned - I was at St Andrews in midweek and the courses look great.

My club season pretty much starts at the beginning of April so the KOKS is the ideal test before I go out with a card which will affect my handicap.

Mu only problem is that the Final is the same weekend as the football play off final for the division I photograph - so my team better get their backsides in gear and win the division outright - not that I've got any chance of winning the qualifier.
 

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A couple of reasons I believe, one of which you've already alluded to.

Most green fees start going up as we get past March and as well as the £10 entry fee, it could start being a costly day if you also factor in travel. This gives the most opportunity to play decent courses for a reasonable price. I know the prices at Ealing would be almost double if we played in June.

The other reason is that it allows us to get the qualifier done before everyone's main season starts proper and people miss it because of conflicts. This also means that there is more time for those that qualify for the final to make arrangements of getting there / staying over etc.

The cost also comes into play with the final as it's likely to be more expensive if we qualified later and thus have the final in late August. Means we can play a course like Hillside for a reasonable amount per person.

Lastly, it avoided bringing in any conflict with the final being too close to the HFH day at the end of the season. After all the amazing work Rick and Rich do for that, we didn't want to detract anything from that day and it really starts gathering pace from late Summer onwards.


It's the first year, and it may be something that is changed totally next year, but this was the best way to get the most people involved, for the cheapest price, on the best courses :)


That's very well explained mate,top answer.

This is mine.

Sorry we decided to have the comp in the winter.
Of course we knew it was going to be the wettest on record,but we didn't care.
Cant stand fair weather golfers,who only play when its a nice sunny day.
Does golf stop in winter? do courses want to shut and do no business?
Why is there such things as waterproofs,hats,gloves,waterproof shoes,hedgehogs,thermals if
golf was only played when the weather is nice.
Oh by the way can anyone who doesn't like it please tell me what the weathers going to be
like for the next 6 weeks so I can plan my next 6 weeks golf.
 

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That's very well explained mate,top answer.

This is mine.

Sorry we decided to have the comp in the winter.
Of course we knew it was going to be the wettest on record,but we didn't care.
Cant stand fair weather golfers,who only play when its a nice sunny day.
Does golf stop in winter? do courses want to shut and do no business?
Why is there such things as waterproofs,hats,gloves,waterproof shoes,hedgehogs,thermals if
golf was only played when the weather is nice.
Oh by the way can anyone who doesn't like it please tell me what the weathers going to be
like for the next 6 weeks so I can plan my next 6 weeks golf.

I play all winter mate as long as the course isn't waterlogged, I've heard the Derby isn't too bad so I've booked a round for tomorrow. Only a prat would go out in torrential rain and gale force winds :thup:
 

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Sorry Dave, I didn't mean the above to come off as overly defensive! I'm as frustrated as anyone with not being able to get out and play much at the moment.

Hopefully all will be ok by March (ours is the very end of the month) and everyone has a good day out! Just checking on HDID we were back playing qualifiers with some good scores in March and so fingers crossed the course will be as good this year.

No not at all mate :thup:
 

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I play all winter mate as long as the course isn't waterlogged, I've heard the Derby isn't too bad so I've booked a round for tomorrow. Only a prat would go out in torrential rain and gale force winds :thup:

Whilst I agree torrential rain and gale force winds would also put me off.
Your previous comment was why was the K of K comp organised when it was.
Nobody could forsee we would have the wettest winter on record,that was my point.
Not having a go at you personally at all,a few others have complained.
But these thing take a lot of organising,people should appreciate that at least,after
all nobody has to play.
 

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Whilst I agree torrential rain and gale force winds would also put me off.
Your previous comment was why was the K of K comp organised when it was.
Nobody could forsee we would have the wettest winter on record,that was my point.
Not having a go at you personally at all,a few others have complained.
But these thing take a lot of organising,people should appreciate that at least,after
all nobody has to play.

I'm not trying to criticise the guys at all, the thought popped into my head after seeing Fish already cancel 2 of the qualifiers at his place. I haven't looked at any of the other threads so I'm not sure if any others have had to do the same.

The lads have gone above and beyond to put this on and have my full support :thup:
 
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