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You may not like Lewis but do you think he did enough to win the race?

Bob I really have no idea. I didn't watch it in any detail. Me disliking him is just the same as some people on this forum laughing at rival football teams losing. Some people really need to get a life!
I respect his ability - I just think he's a nob. I dealt with him in person in 2007 at the first NFL regular season game at Wembley when he was an honorary captain. He wasn't even a world champion then and was a dick that day. I was working with Martin Johnson who just despaired at the future of English sport with him and John Terry who was there as well.
 

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Bob I really have no idea. I didn't watch it in any detail. Me disliking him is just the same as some people on this forum laughing at rival football teams losing. Some people really need to get a life!
I respect his ability - I just think he's a nob. I dealt with him in person in 2007 at the first NFL regular season game at Wembley when he was an honorary captain. He wasn't even a world champion then and was a dick that day. I was working with Martin Johnson who just despaired at the future of English sport with him and John Terry who was there as well.

What did he do that day to warrant being called a dick?
 

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Long time ago but he was being really obnoxious to the support staff on the field, ignored a couple of very polite requests off the field for a picture or autograph and was just acting like a prima donna. Martin Johnson on the other hand, was going out of his way to be helpful to everyone. And both were being paid £10K+ to be there that day.
 

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What did he do that day to warrant being called a dick?
I've seen him quite close on a golf course a couple of times - some time ago.
He was the epitome of a spoilt brat. He seems to have matured somewhat, at least as an F1 driver, since then though.
 
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Long time ago but he was being really obnoxious to the support staff on the field, ignored a couple of very polite requests off the field for a picture or autograph and was just acting like a prima donna. Martin Johnson on the other hand, was going out of his way to be helpful to everyone. And both were being paid £10K+ to be there that day.
It is interesting people's perception, a guy at my golf club had a similar experience with him.

However, as part of his duties with Mercedes and other sponsors, I bet he has had to attend thousands of corporate events and meet tens of thousands of people in his career. Maybe he is simply not the most sociable person, and I bet it is difficult for an individual to be engaging with everyone they meet. To you, or the guy at my golf club, it is a rare opportunity to meet a very famous person, and something you remember for the rest of your days. To him, it is just another event where he meets many many people, and has to think of ways to engage with many different personalities. I'm not surprised that he didn't necessarily take a shine to you or many other people he meets, and seems quite offish. He probably also has security around him frequently, so he may get used to keeping a certain amount of distance between him and people he does not know, both physically and socially.

However, I doubt the above makes him a knob, even if it is not the ideal encounter for the member of the public. I reckon many of us would get sick and tired of constant public attention and having to be on top form when we are around people, especially if we do not have the charismatic social skills few people actually possess. Maybe there is a better case of him being accused as a knob if he went out of his way to be nasty to someone, but it often seems people make this accusation simply because he didn't go out of his way to make them feel he was really glad to meet them.
 

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Fair point. There is a former NFL QB named Trent Dilfer who I know well and is one of the nicest people you could ever wish to meet. In 1998, he had signed a ton of autographs for fans at an event and had to rush off at the end to meet his wife at the hospital for a pre-natal scan. One fan tried to chase him to his car to sign a bunch of cards and Trent was very apologetic but had to go. The fan then went on local radio and slagged him off to high heaven. Trent ended up calling the show two days later to explain but what could he do?

On Hamilton, I just don't like him. That is my perspective and to quote Bobby Brown, my prerogative.
 

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So it all starts for real tomorrow. Really looking forward to it.

I see the new race director has come out with a simple rule for track boundaries. Words to the effect of "As per the rule book, the white lines define the track; the curbs don't". Good, it's annoyed me for years that all the drivers take the mickey at every race. And every session seemed to have different rules about what was track and what wasn't. It was pathetic.

I could never understand the "there's no benefit in cutting this corner" argument. If there was no benefit the drivers wouldn't have been doing it every single lap.
 

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So it all starts for real tomorrow. Really looking forward to it.

I see the new race director has come out with a simple rule for track boundaries. Words to the effect of "As per the rule book, the white lines define the track; the curbs don't". Good, it's annoyed me for years that all the drivers take the mickey at every race. And every session seemed to have different rules about what was track and what wasn't. It was pathetic.

I could never understand the "there's no benefit in cutting this corner" argument. If there was no benefit the drivers wouldn't have been doing it every single lap.
Some sort of 'bumper strip' - the kind that rattles suspension - would sort it out! Enough to force speed reduction without compromising safety.
 

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I’ve just finished DTS, the finish to last season was a fix.

edited to add, I know Hamilton can be a polarising figure, but the way he handled himself after what happened was exemplary. Pretty sure if that was me, Masi would be picking his teeth out of my helmet.

And Horner is a bell end.
 
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