European Tour and PGA Tour tie up

[MarkT]

How do you think this will change things and play out?

Should be great news for the European Tour and help with purses etc and scheduling with a load of big weeks, hopefully, set to take place in 2021

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Mark - can you translate that into something that makes sense? I'm not being funny, it is a fairly vague release that doesn't really say much. Can you read between the lines for us not in the game?

 

[MarkT]

Like a lot of press releases it's all a bit mind blowing when the idea of it should be to be as clear as possible - people have been talking about some sort of merger/takeover for years and the European Tour is obviously struggling with $1m purses and a year that nobody could have predicted. Hopefully it will be the end of players having to play a certain amount of tournaments ahead of a Ryder Cup and the European Tour will be beamed around the world a lot more. The ET have taken more tournaments under their wing since coming back and the players only know a schedule up to January so hopefully things can proceed with a bit more confidence now.
It's strange to think that it was only this year that we were talking about the Premier Golf League so maybe it's also a proper stance against that?

Time will tell but really hope it gives the ET a proper boost.. people will no doubt talk about it becoming a feeder tour but it sort of already is anyway.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Like a lot of press releases it's all a bit mind blowing when the idea of it should be to be as clear as possible - people have been talking about some sort of merger/takeover for years and the European Tour is obviously struggling with $1m purses and a year that nobody could have predicted. Hopefully it will be the end of players having to play a certain amount of tournaments ahead of a Ryder Cup and the European Tour will be beamed around the world a lot more. The ET have taken more tournaments under their wing since coming back and the players only know a schedule up to January so hopefully things can proceed with a bit more confidence now.
It's strange to think that it was only this year that we were talking about the Premier Golf League so maybe it's also a proper stance against that?

Time will tell but really hope it gives the ET a proper boost.. people will no doubt talk about it becoming a feeder tour but it sort of already is anyway.

Not a chance that would happen - it’s the one main thing protecting the tour a touch , that and introducing higher prize funds

The European Tour will always be a feeder tour as such and the top players will jump to the US Tour as soon as they can - we will need to ensure there are some ways that we can find ways to keep the top players coming back for a few tournaments at least

 

[SammmeBee]

PGA Tour have basically started the process of taking over the European Tour.....

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I assumed it meant that they’ll try to organise events/dates around each other. ie not having a big US event when a Rolex event is taking place etc
So the big names can play on both tours more easily.

 

[MarkT]

Not a chance that would happen - it’s the one main thing protecting the tour a touch , that and introducing higher prize funds

The European Tour will always be a feeder tour as such and the top players will jump to the US Tour as soon as they can - we will need to ensure there are some ways that we can find ways to keep the top players coming back for a few tournaments at least

Maybe though the Rolex events were meant to do that and that hasn’t really happened though maybe they will again in RC years - don’t think you can gain RC points in Rolex weeks elsewhere?

Good for ranking points but given how much some of these take in appearance money would rather they didn’t bother or maybe that’s just a bit idyllic..


Even the really mediocre PGA Tour events have 6.6m prize money which is nuts

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Maybe though the Rolex events were meant to do that and that hasn’t really happened though maybe they will again in RC years - don’t think you can gain RC points in Rolex weeks elsewhere?

Good for ranking points but given how much some of these take in appearance money would rather they didn’t bother or maybe that’s just a bit idyllic..


Even the really mediocre PGA Tour events have 6.6m prize money which is nuts

The Rolex has improved the level of players a good deal but still its pennies compared to the big US events

There are two ways to go

Bring in Ranking points determined by the event and not the players who play

The Scottish , Irish Opens should be afforded the same level of points as the Players for example

Or they just leave it as is and use the tour to allow the lower level players a chance to gain a good career and then we see more players like Hatton and Fitzpatrick coming up through the system

 

[SammmeBee]

World Ranking points (1 list for RC) are based on the quality of the field in world ranking terms.

The Celtic Opens are nowhere near on a par with the Players.....it’s a bit like suggesting Rangers and Celtic could compete in the Premier League!!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

World Ranking points (1 list for RC) are based on the quality of the field in world ranking terms.

The Celtic Opens are nowhere near on a par with the Players.....it’s a bit like suggesting Rangers and Celtic could compete in the Premier League!!

But the ranking points on those more established events and then the golfers will attend the events to boost them. Right now the players hold the ranking points - so if someone decided to put a £30mil prize fund in the Alaska Open then the top 20 world jump on it and that would hold as more ranking points than most PGA and ET events.

Rank the regular events fairly across both tours and you may well see more Top players play in them

 

[NearHull]

Golf's two biggest professional tours have announced a new "strategic alliance", saying that it heralds a new era for the global game.

Sound as if it’s a “win - win”. Is it?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Hopefully by gaining a stake in ETP who bring the coverage in Europe it may mean better feeds from the US and so less ad breaks. Doubt it though. I hope the ET don't sell themselves cheap and let the PGA run roughshod over everything they've built up in the last few decades and that it can be a positive thing in terms of allowing players to compete for better purses and more evenly ranked world ranking points

 

[SammmeBee]

Hopefully by gaining a stake in ETP who bring the coverage in Europe it may mean better feeds from the US and so less ad breaks. Doubt it though. I hope the ET don't sell themselves cheap and let the PGA run roughshod over everything they've built up in the last few decades and that it can be a positive thing in terms of allowing players to compete for better purses and more evenly ranked world ranking points

Is that a long version of saying ‘I don’t know’.....?!