English Girl arrested for causing earthquake

Crazyface said:
I cannot believe some of the responses to this on here. Even my misses was amazed when heard this on the TV this morning. Do they have an actual law covering this over there. My guess is they don't. It just goes to show how backward these people are in other countries. It beggars belief it really does. It caused an earthquake? Really, is that what you think? Jesus H !!!!!!
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So totally wrong. So we in the 'West' know it all and understand the world, the universe and all - and our way is the civilised way - the one way - the only way. And anyone who's belief system doesn't square with ours is an uncivilised backward numbskull?

And so such as Brunei is an islamic state; considering implementing Sharia law, and has no time for homosexuals. If you don't like then don't go there. No-one forced these folks to travel to Malaysia; no-one forced them to climb a sacred mountain;no-one told them to be abusive and disrespectful. They made their bed.
 
Crazyface said:
I cannot believe some of the responses to this on here. Even my misses was amazed when heard this on the TV this morning. Do they have an actual law covering this over there. My guess is they don't. It just goes to show how backward these people are in other countries. It beggars belief it really does. It caused an earthquake? Really, is that what you think? Jesus H !!!!!!
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Not sure if you were being deliberately being ironic with ending your post Jesus H. But you could argue that the villagers believing this caused an earthquake is just as scientifically sound and has as much proven evidence as people believing that there is a God. Or Jesus did all the miracles.

People can believe what they want, and the western world is not really in a great position to talk about other cultures being backwards if you are basing it on what you believe or not and how a small minority interpret those beliefs and use them to justify their 'dubious' actions.

And this is not intended to open up a debate on the existence of God/Jesus or not, just trying to make a comparison of societal beliefs.
 
Hacker Khan said:
Not sure if you were being deliberately being ironic with ending your post Jesus H. But you could argue that the villagers believing this caused an earthquake is just as scientifically sound and has as much proven evidence as people believing that there is a God. Or Jesus did all the miracles.

People can believe what they want, and the western world is not really in a great position to talk about other cultures being backwards if you are basing it on what you believe or not and how a small minority interpret those beliefs and use them to justify their 'dubious' actions.

And this is not intended to open up a debate on the existence of God/Jesus or not, just trying to make a comparison of societal beliefs.
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Yes - I think it amusing how so many folks who disbelieve in 'religious spiritualism' will casually use religious references - when by their own assertion what they represent is meaningless rubbish :)
 
Ignoring the media in this case and having lived in various parts of the world, I can say one thing.. follow and respect the local custom. If you are in the middle east, then cover up but if you are in France, don't cover up.
I lived in Malaysia for sometime and once mentioned the word 'Allah' and I was told that I should not say the word as I am not a Muslim... It was a sweet Jesus moment...
Equally it is a tolerant society, we were having a meal in a bar during the Holy month of Ramadan. The culture police walked in, checked out passport and left us alone, no such luck for the locals. It is a fantastic place and would definitely go back again.
I am sure the media will blow it up, but I am sure the local laws will give them a fine, slap on the wrist and deport them back - will be very surprised if they do anything else.
 
vkurup said:
Ignoring the media in this case and having lived in various parts of the world, I can say one thing.. follow and respect the local custom. If you are in the middle east, then cover up but if you are in France, don't cover up.
I lived in Malaysia for sometime and once mentioned the word 'Allah' and I was told that I should not say the word as I am not a Muslim... It was a sweet Jesus moment...
Equally it is a tolerant society, we were having a meal in a bar during the Holy month of Ramadan. The culture police walked in, checked out passport and left us alone, no such luck for the locals. It is a fantastic place and would definitely go back again.
I am sure the media will blow it up, but I am sure the local laws will give them a fine, slap on the wrist and deport them back - will be very surprised if they do anything else.
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They have culture police??? Cool, we should replicate that here. They can then have the power look at anyone's viewing habits and if they watch Britain's Got Talent then you get deported. Or if you have Sting in your record collection then you're out as well. ;)
 
My daughter is off to Thailand next month for a month - good warning for her...and we have reminded her of what her Uncle Dave tells us - he has lived in Bangkok for 15 years. The Thais are nice and smiley to westerners when they are getting our money - but get on their wrong side or insult them and they can be really vindictive and harsh.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
So totally wrong. So we in the 'West' know it all and understand the world, the universe and all - and our way is the civilised way - the one way - the only way. And anyone who's belief system doesn't square with ours is an uncivilised backward numbskull?

And so such as Brunei is an islamic state; considering implementing Sharia law, and has no time for homosexuals. If you don't like then don't go there. No-one forced these folks to travel to Malaysia; no-one forced them to climb a sacred mountain;no-one told them to be abusive and disrespectful. They made their bed.
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For believing the group caused an earthquake......oh yes !!!!!
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
My daughter is off to Thailand next month for a month - good warning for her...and we have reminded her of what her Uncle Dave tells us - he has lived in Bangkok for 15 years. The Thais are nice and smiley to westerners when they are getting our money - but get on their wrong side or insult them and they can be really vindictive and harsh.
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Yep, you need to watch yourself over there.... one night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble, not much between despair and ecstasy, one night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble, can't be too carefull with your company..... :whistle:
 
c1973 said:
Yep, you need to watch yourself over there.... one night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble, not much between despair and ecstasy, one night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble, can't be too carefull with your company..... :whistle:
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Thank you Mr Head.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
My daughter is off to Thailand next month for a month - good warning for her...and we have reminded her of what her Uncle Dave tells us - he has lived in Bangkok for 15 years. The Thais are nice and smiley to westerners when they are getting our money - but get on their wrong side or insult them and they can be really vindictive and harsh.
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My daughter is only 7 but I can't imagine how I will deal with it if she says to me in late teens / early twenties that she is off to Thailand or Australia etc for a month. I know you should see as much of the world as you can, life experiences blah blah but imagine as a parent I would be worried sick rather than being pleased for her when she tells me this given all the bad things which are reported on the news these days. How do you feel about it?
 
gdunc79 said:
My daughter is only 7 but I can't imagine how I will deal with it if she says to me in late teens / early twenties that she is off to Thailand or Australia etc for a month. I know you should see as much of the world as you can, life experiences blah blah but imagine as a parent I would be worried sick rather than being pleased for her when she tells me this given all the bad things which are reported on the news these days. How do you feel about it?
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What bad things? One unfortunate couple were killed, this incident, and two girls caught drug smuggling. Other than that, think of the thousands (hundreds of thousands?) that have done this over the years.

If you raise a sensible girl, she'll be fine. Probably a lot safer to go and do this, than teach her to drive!
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
So totally wrong. So we in the 'West' know it all and understand the world, the universe and all - and our way is the civilised way - the one way - the only way. And anyone who's belief system doesn't square with ours is an uncivilised backward numbskull?

And so such as Brunei is an islamic state; considering implementing Sharia law, and has no time for homosexuals. If you don't like then don't go there. No-one forced these folks to travel to Malaysia; no-one forced them to climb a sacred mountain;no-one told them to be abusive and disrespectful. They made their bed.
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This is a bit of a tangent from the OP but it needs to be challenged. It's simply not good enough to bury our heads in the sand about these countries that deny basic human rights to parts of their own population such as women or gay people and say "just don't go there". Their religious beliefs are backward, I'm afraid, and should not be pandered to.
 
CheltenhamHacker said:
What bad things? One unfortunate couple were killed, this incident, and two girls caught drug smuggling. Other than that, think of the thousands (hundreds of thousands?) that have done this over the years.

If you raise a sensible girl, she'll be fine. Probably a lot safer to go and do this, than teach her to drive!
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I know majority of young people that go travelling are absolutely fine but when it is your own child on the other side of the world experiencing different cultures and people for the first time, there must be a sense of worry as a parent. Will see what happens, but can't imagine I will be encouraging her to do it just to build her "life experience".
 
What right do we have to dictate to other countries? It is up to them how they behave in their country. How do you know people in Malaysia are not looking at the UK now and think we are immoral and appalling for how British people behave on a Saturday night in city centres? How can we allow British people to act as they do in Magaluf? Should Malaysia take action against Britain? We can not act as the world judge and jury.
 
gdunc79 said:
My daughter is only 7 but I can't imagine how I will deal with it if she says to me in late teens / early twenties that she is off to Thailand or Australia etc for a month. I know you should see as much of the world as you can, life experiences blah blah but imagine as a parent I would be worried sick rather than being pleased for her when she tells me this given all the bad things which are reported on the news these days. How do you feel about it?
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She's just turned 20 and is a sensible young lady and going with two of her girl friends (both also sensible) - two weeks voluntary working - two weeks holiday. That said my wife is a bit worried - I am trusting she will not expose herself to risk. Importantly we know that her uncle is in Bangkok and well tuned to the Thais and Thai living - and is there if they need help or advice.
 
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