England Summer Test Series

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Mutterings yesterday that Bairstow would open. If that is the case then Buttler would surely keep wicket.

Big series for Cook. He needs to do something or the bell may be ringing on his test career.
 
Paperboy said:
Feel sorry for Vince, did exactly what he was asked to do back in county cricket.
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a few eye catching 90s in the IPHell worth more than runs in county cricket. feels very much like another shuffling of the pack with little direction to me, Bairstow going to get more responsibility (and end up batting too high for a keeper) Malan gets shuffled up to 3 (not sure this is ideal either) whilst we stick with Cook at the top (surely once you choose to leave Vince out moving Cook to 3 and trying a new opening pair wouldve been a decent option?)

so few of them are playign regular red ball cricket its really hard to know what the make up of the batting should be in this changing era

barely seen any of Bess in red ball cricket but find it hard to believe hes closed to the finished article after 16 games most of them not as the first choice spinner, pretty hefty baptism against a side that play spin as well as most, what it does is show just how empty the spin bowling cupboard is (Leach/Crane neither close to established both injured and Ali picking up a payday in India)
 
The Buttler selection is same old, same old. Player A does well in one format so he must be brilliant in another format too. A few weeks back there was plenty of chat about red ball cricket and white ball cricket almost becoming two different sports.

Dunno whether this is Ed Smith trying to look funky or just another case of plus ca change, plus ca meme chose.

Not quite sure how the likes of Foakes and Burns dont get a look in either.
 
Meanwhile, fair play to Ireland for guttsing it out in their first test. Amir and Abbas are a decent duo, as England are going to find out.

Would be interesting to see how Ireland would get on against the likes of Sri Lanka, West Indies and Zimbabwe on Irish soil.
 
Tongo said:
Meanwhile, fair play to Ireland for guttsing it out in their first test. Amir and Abbas are a decent duo, as England are going to find out.

Would be interesting to see how Ireland would get on against the likes of Sri Lanka, West Indies and Zimbabwe on Irish soil.
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I think Ireland will be very competitive against the sides you named. My concern will be how they will fare on the sub-continent in particular. A steep learning curve I fear in the away series but a very promising opening performance.
 
I would say the biggest concern for the selectors is the weather. If it's too hot then that could seriously affect the mental stability of the two volatile gingers!!! ;) :D
 
Doesn't say a lot for the county system when Buttler gets picked. I'm not sure where to stand on this. Obviously, Buttler is world class in white ball cricket, but do you give him a chance to make it at test cricket without earning his stripes on the county circuit ? FWIW I think he'll bat at 7 and Bairstowe will bat at 5. Its a shame Ball missed out after his start to the season.

Cook, Stoneman, Root, Malan, Bairstowe, Stokes, Buttler, Woakes, Broad, Bess, Anderson
 
Junior said:
Doesn't say a lot for the county system when Buttler gets picked. I'm not sure where to stand on this. Obviously, Buttler is world class in white ball cricket, but do you give him a chance to make it at test cricket without earning his stripes on the county circuit ? FWIW I think he'll bat at 7 and Bairstowe will bat at 5. Its a shame Ball missed out after his start to the season.

Cook, Stoneman, Root, Malan, Bairstowe, Stokes, Buttler, Woakes, Broad, Bess, Anderson
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Carting sixes on decks prepared for big hitting is one thing but facing Amir and Abbas and the moving ball on english decks that will more than likely offer something for the bowlers is completely different. Pakistan will quite happily concede a few boundaries to Buttler if they get him out early.

For me Foakes should have been picked instead of Buttler. But he's not playing in the IPL so doesnt get noticed.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I think Ireland will be very competitive against the sides you named. My concern will be how they will fare on the sub-continent in particular. A steep learning curve I fear in the away series but a very promising opening performance.
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Most non sub-continent teams struggle on the sub-continent. So Ireland wouldnt be alone on that front.
 
Tongo said:
Carting sixes on decks prepared for big hitting is one thing but facing Amir and Abbas and the moving ball on english decks that will more than likely offer something for the bowlers is completely different. Pakistan will quite happily concede a few boundaries to Buttler if they get him out early.

For me Foakes should have been picked instead of Buttler. But he's not playing in the IPL so doesnt get noticed.
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I agree. Flat wickets, short boundaries and field restrictions do flatter IPL batsmen. Fkes should have been given a go ahead of Buttler. Esp given he did nothing wrong on tour in the winter. He got some good runs in the warm up matches.
 
I don’t tbink Buttler is a bad choice - couple years back he was brought in to bat at 7 and did a good job but then they went to Ali , I think he will do a good job and woild actually like to see Bairstow moved up and Buttler given the gloves
 
HomerJSimpson said:
So will we beat the Aussies. I guess that's the burning question. If so, where do you see England being stronger and if not, why not?
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dont think i can think of a less anticipated series against the aussies, yet another endless odi series shoehorned into the fixture list to line the ECB coffers and compromising 2 cracking series against Pakistan and India and making them both shorter than ideal, against an aussie side missing 3 of their top order and in complete disarray
 
I would have loved to see us take a huge plunge on Virdi from Surrey. He's started the season incredibly well and on seamer friendly tracks. It was never going to happen as it's not the English way of doing things. We will have to coach him a new action first !!!! How Stoneman got in I'm not so sure, as many a wiser person than me has said …."it's harder to get out of the England team than get in it"
 
Stoneman has gone early through the gate. Should a test opener really be getting bowled like that? As an opening batsman I expect them to get out caught behind, not in front of the wicket, or LBW. Getting bowled off the front foot is not good.

Am I too old school in that view? Has the game moved on?
 
You’re right it’s not good ,’it’s not as if the ball did much as well , he really needs a big score in the next three innnings or he is done
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Stoneman has gone early through the gate. Should a test opener really be getting bowled like that? As an opening batsman I expect them to get out caught behind, not in front of the wicket, or LBW. Getting bowled off the front foot is not good.

Am I too old school in that view? Has the game moved on?
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Could as easily ask if a Test No:3 (and Captain) should be chasing such a wide delivery.

Whatever the answer it does appear that we are no nearer to solving our problems at the top of the order.
 
Continuation of the shambles that was Oz and NZ over the winter!
 
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