England Summer Test Series

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I went today, definitely a good toss to lose. My friend who had played minor counties said bat all day long.
The Indian Seamers are 5MPH quicker then ours and it shows.

Glad Curran got the runs looked very good. Going again tomorrow, if one of the openers is bowling Dross would get him into the attack sharpish!
 
Rory Burns has made 1,000 runs the last 5 seasons and is the first man to hit that mark this year.
Ian Bell is the first man this season to make 4 FC hundreds and has just reached 20,000 runs - time to bring him back.

They both should be in the XI, it's time this batting line-up got changed. Jennings is nowhere near good enough and we don't need two spinners. For the 5th Test I'd be picking:

Cook
Burns
Bell
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Moeen
Curran (Woakes if fit)
Broad
Anderson
 
Dan2501 said:
Rory Burns has made 1,000 runs the last 5 seasons and is the first man to hit that mark this year.
Ian Bell is the first man this season to make 4 FC hundreds and has just reached 20,000 runs - time to bring him back.

They both should be in the XI, it's time this batting line-up got changed. Jennings is nowhere near good enough and we don't need two spinners. For the 5th Test I'd be picking:

Cook
Burns
Bell
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Moeen
Curran (Woakes if fit)
Broad
Anderson
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can't really disagree on any of those though i do like Curren over Woakes as he offers something different.

i was speaking to a mate the other day who's a Surrey members and has seen a fair bit of Burns, " deserves a go, but technique is a bit sketchy" were his comments
 
Burns has a very odd looking technique but ultimately weight of runs at County level means he is definitely worth giving a go to, especially whilst hes in decent nick.

This test side is bizarre, we have almost every batter batting out of position, Bairstow playing just as a batter (I assumed Stokes was too when Jennings bowled before him!). Weve picked 2 spinners despite the skipper really not wanting to ever bowl them.

For me having got a double hundred last week Id have batted Ali at 3 to allow everyone else to shift down one and bat in their more accustomed position. I assume the fact hes another lefty is why they didnt want to (wouldve been solved by dropping Jennings of course) but there really doesnt seem to be a clear plan as to the composition of the side (not helped by the fact that we dont possess a single batter able to bat time with Cook struggling)

Fair play to anyone who can name the top 6 for the first test this winter, not quite sure where the selectors even start lol
 
I'll not take that bet Fundy. No idea what the 6 could be but I wouldn't have any of the first three either there, the openers, or in their current position, Root. That leaves 1-3 up for grabs. 4-6 then falls into place much easier.

The selectors need to show some bottle for the last test and do something about that top order.
 
Simple solution - listen to what that twerp Boycott has to say and then do the complete opposite.
 
Pathetic Shark said:
listen to what that twerp Boycott has to say and then do the com
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Lord Tyrion said:
I'll not take that bet Fundy. No idea what the 6 could be but I wouldn't have any of the first three either there, the openers, or in their current position, Root. That leaves 1-3 up for grabs. 4-6 then falls into place much easier.

The selectors need to show some bottle for the last test and do something about that top order.
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last test a bit easier for me than the winter as it could well be a winner takes all one off game, if it is id throw the dice something like this assuming everyone is fit:

Burns
Ali
Bell
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
Curran
Broad
Andersen
 
Some frustrating wagging of the Indian tail and a great knock from Pujara. Crucial we get to parity at least without losing a wicket. Will turn plenty tomorrow and I think we need a 250 lead to defend in the final innings.
 
Cant say i agree Homer, Jennings and Cook not been crucial to any game of this series and dont see it starting now, both look like dead men walking, anything from either has to be considered a bonus at this stage. All about whether one or two of the middle order can bat long enough to set them 200+ and then whether we can get Kohli out again. Would quite like to see it go to a decider and set whether any of the selectors actually own a set
 
fundy said:
Cant say i agree Homer, Jennings and Cook not been crucial to any game of this series and dont see it starting now, both look like dead men walking, anything from either has to be considered a bonus at this stage. All about whether one or two of the middle order can bat long enough to set them 200+ and then whether we can get Kohli out again. Would quite like to see it go to a decider and set whether any of the selectors actually own a set
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Trouble is I think one thing we'll both agree on is the answer to your last sentence in a definite no
 
fundy said:
last test a bit easier for me than the winter as it could well be a winner takes all one off game, if it is id throw the dice something like this assuming everyone is fit:

Burns
Ali
Bell
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
Curran
Broad
Andersen
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I would replace Woakes with Leach
And please please give Hildreath the chance

But I don’t expect them to do either

Unless Jennings has a big innings then this is the team I expect for the next test

Cook
Burns ( Jennings if he has a big innings )
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Curran
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

If Woakes isn’t fit would like to see J Overton in
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I would replace Woakes with Leach
And please please give Hildreath the chance

But I don’t expect them to do either

Unless Jennings has a big innings then this is the team I expect for the next test

Cook
Burns ( Jennings if he has a big innings )
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Curran
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

If Woakes isn’t fit would like to see J Overton in
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Leach over Woakes? I know youre a Somerset fan but seriously why? Root struggles to bowl one spinner, are you advocating picking Leach and bowling him ahead of Moeen after todays performance? Woakes if fit would be one of the first names on the sheet in English conditions for me, capable of winning the game with one spell and capable of a test hundred from down the order as already proved this series.

Think Hildreths time was several years ago (if at all in red ball cricket) and not in a one off decider game, hence why Id give Bell a shot (whos got close to 1000 runs this year), but lets be honest a pretty big ask for anyone to come in at 2-2 from outside the squad and get runs (hence why Id bat Moeen up the order, especially having got a double ton last week)

Expect your side above is right though (with Woakes batting above Curran), and we'll continue to expose Root and Bairstow to the new ball far earlier than ideal
 
fundy said:
Leach over Woakes? I know youre a Somerset fan but seriously why? Root struggles to bowl one spinner, are you advocating picking Leach and bowling him ahead of Moeen after todays performance? Woakes if fit would be one of the first names on the sheet in English conditions for me, capable of winning the game with one spell and capable of a test hundred from down the order as already proved this series.

Think Hildreths time was several years ago (if at all in red ball cricket) and not in a one off decider game, hence why Id give Bell a shot (whos got close to 1000 runs this year), but lets be honest a pretty big ask for anyone to come in at 2-2 from outside the squad and get runs (hence why Id bat Moeen up the order, especially having got a double ton last week)

Expect your side above is right though (with Woakes batting above Curran), and we'll continue to expose Root and Bairstow to the new ball far earlier than ideal
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I think Woakes thigh Isn’t going to be ready and I have a feeling that with the dry spell we are about to have would result in a turning wicket at the Oval and have two spinners playing but if fit would have both in the squad and make a choice on the day based on the forecast and the wicket , the Rashid experiment as embarrassing as it was hasn’t worked and it’s time to get Leach back in.

Hildreath is also not far off 1000 runs and in Div 1 - but he should have been given a go over the winter or at least at the start of summer but the fascination with Vince is typical of England selectors ( they did the same with Bopara ) - Bell isn’t a bad choice and he should bave been recalled last year

But we know that Smith and Co don’t have the coconuts to make a bold move and go outside the circle so only one change really - Burns I suspect will enter the fray
 
Went again today, if you'd have told me how it would have finished for the day I'd have snapped your hand off!

Thought Roots captaincy was poor today, if your going to have a fast bowler bounce someone it shouldn't be Anderson. He doesn't trust Rashid so why play him!

Hildreth has scored 800+ runs a season since 2005, deserves a chance but his face obliviously doesn't fit. A Aussie great and Chris Rogers thinks he deserves a chance.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I think Woakes thigh Isn’t going to be ready and I have a feeling that with the dry spell we are about to have would result in a turning wicket at the Oval and have two spinners playing but if fit would have both in the squad and make a choice on the day based on the forecast and the wicket , the Rashid experiment as embarrassing as it was hasn’t worked and it’s time to get Leach back in.

Hildreath is also not far off 1000 runs and in Div 1 - but he should have been given a go over the winter or at least at the start of summer but the fascination with Vince is typical of England selectors ( they did the same with Bopara ) - Bell isn’t a bad choice and he should bave been recalled last year

But we know that Smith and Co don’t have the coconuts to make a bold move and go outside the circle so only one change really - Burns I suspect will enter the fray
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Phil Bell had an awful season last year and rightly no where near a recall!
 
Paperboy said:
Went again today, if you'd have told me how it would have finished for the day I'd have snapped your hand off!

Thought Roots captaincy was poor today, if your going to have a fast bowler bounce someone it shouldn't be Anderson. He doesn't trust Rashid so why play him!

Hildreth has scored 800+ runs a season since 2005, deserves a chance but his face obliviously doesn't fit. A Aussie great and Chris Rogers thinks he deserves a chance.
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Interesting point you raise about Root's captaincy. Is he that good? Does he lack the courage to force the game at times. I know it was a good knock from Pujara but we let them get too many at the end and in a tight match they could be the big difference. He didn't seem to have any Plan B
 
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