England and the World Cup

[Deleted member 15344]

Well they will certainly have to play a lot better than what they currently are

Why is Wellbeck wearing an England shirt ?!

It's the same old Hodgson tactics !!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well that woke them up

 

[Papas1982]

Well they will certainly have to play a lot better than what they currently are

Why is Wellbeck wearing an England shirt ?!

It's the same old Hodgson tactics !!

England have performed like this for 20 years. Crippling expectations and players freeze. Hardly Hodgson to blame.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

England have performed like this for 20 years. Crippling expectations and players freeze. Hardly Hodgson to blame.

There is currently zero expectations on this team - it's not an excuse to play poor dour dull football. That's the tactics and picking players like Welbeck

 

[Slime]

Why is Wellbeck wearing an England shirt ?!

Or more to the point, why are Johnson & Henderson wearing England shirts?
Anyway, I thought you were only a Liverpool supporter and didn't give a toss about England!


Slime.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Or more to the point, why are Johnson & Henderson wearing England shirts?
Anyway, I thought you were only a Liverpool supporter and didn't give a toss about England!


Slime.

Well Henderson has had a cracking season and there is a lack of competition for Johnson.

Sorry didn't realise I was allowed to comment on England.

 

[Imurg]

Nobody has said you can't
The surprise is there because you clearly stated some time back that you're not interested in the National team..

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Nobody has said you can't
The surprise is there because you clearly stated some time back that you're not interested in the National team..

What I said was I don't support them as opposed to not being interested :thup:

We can either discuss my non support of England and people can get their knickers in a twist again and the pitchforks can come out and I can be accused of being a traitor etc again or we can discuss the actual subject of the thread.

I vote discuss about the England Football Team - what say you ?

 

[Rumpokid]

Great result.Much better than Scotland's circa1978...

 

[Papas1982]

What I said was I don't support them as opposed to not being interested :thup:

We can either discuss my non support of England and people can get their knickers in a twist again and the pitchforks can come out and I can be accused of being a traitor etc again or we can discuss the actual subject of the thread.

I vote discuss about the England Football Team - what say you ?

Ok, well discussing England Welbeck as much as I don't rate. Has a decent record for England, and just like Johnson. No more competition.

Expectation is always there with England. We have underperformed as long as I remember, with or without superstars that we sometimes apparently have. Blaming Hodgson all the time is IMO at least very tiresome. It was a friendly, at least let him blow the World Cup then you can say you told us all. At the moment it comes across to me at least as a Liverpool fan yet a gaining blaming Hodgson for all that is wrong.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Ok, well discussing England Welbeck as much as I don't rate. Has a decent record for England, and just like Johnson. No more competition.

He has competition - in fact one of the most in form and talented youngesters available to England going by the name of Sterling :thup:

Expectation is always there with England. We have underperformed as long as I remember, with or without superstars that we sometimes apparently have. Blaming Hodgson all the time is IMO at least very tiresome. It was a friendly, at least let him blow the World Cup then you can say you told us all. At the moment it comes across to me at least as a Liverpool fan yet a gaining blaming Hodgson for all that is wrong.

England have talented youngsters available to them - all willing and able to play and high passing tempo with pace and power and lots of energy. Those youngsters are dying to be let lose but it's the same old - it's a friendly , experiment , try Barkley and Sterling and Shaw - let them lose - they were facing a second string Peru and created very little , same old dull pedestrian performance that sucks the life out of a crowd. England have so much potential to excite teams but it's all stick behind decade old tactics.

 

[Papas1982]

He has competition - in fact one of the most in form and talented youngesters available to England going by the name of Sterling :thup:



England have talented youngsters available to them - all willing and able to play and high passing tempo with pace and power and lots of energy. Those youngsters are dying to be let lose but it's the same old - it's a friendly , experiment , try Barkley and Sterling and Shaw - let them lose - they were facing a second string Peru and created very little , same old dull pedestrian performance that sucks the life out of a crowd. England have so much potential to excite teams but it's all stick behind decade old tactics.

I don't disagree, but none of that is new. Blaiming it all on Hodgson is tiresome.

I think fancies sterling as an impact sub. Welbeck as a better defensive option. And as a I said, goal scoring record not too bad for England.

Barkley this his season has had a handful of great games and all of a sudden the saviour, much like Wilshere was. Shaw was injured for this game. I would probably start sterling, but that's about the only change I'd have made from this game.

The players, if they're so forward thinking could express themselves more when out on the pitch.

 

[Rumpokid]

Ok, well discussing England Welbeck as much as I don't rate. Has a decent record for England, and just like Johnson. No more competition.

Expectation is always there with England. We have underperformed as long as I remember, with or without superstars that we sometimes apparently have. Blaming Hodgson all the time is IMO at least very tiresome. It was a friendly, at least let him blow the World Cup then you can say you told us all. At the moment it comes across to me at least as a Liverpool fan yet a gaining blaming Hodgson for all that is wrong.

Can you remember 86 and 90?

 

[Papas1982]

Can you remember 86 and 90?

94 was first World Cup I can recall then 96 onwards.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I don't disagree, but none of that is new. Blaiming it all on Hodgson is tiresome.

I think fancies sterling as an impact sub. Welbeck as a better defensive option. And as a I said, goal scoring record not too bad for England.

Barkley this his season has had a handful of great games and all of a sudden the saviour, much like Wilshere was. Shaw was injured for this game. I would probably start sterling, but that's about the only change I'd have made from this game.

The players, if they're so forward thinking could express themselves more when out on the pitch.

I'm blaming Hodgson because he is the one employing the tactics and picking the team

It's irrelevant what has happened before - as a manager he was supposed to change things and without any expectation go into the tournament without anything to lose and try something new. Last warm up in England and it's the same old tactics that will get the team nowhere.

 

[Rumpokid]

94 was first World Cup I can recall then 96 onwards.

Try and watch them.England played with passion,and skill.What a rollercoaster ride.And the team mates actually got on and did not have ego's as big as their salaries.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

94 was first World Cup I can recall then 96 onwards.

96 was brilliant - England going in with lots of attacking intent and trying to be positive - it was a great tournament

 

[Slime]

What I said was I don't support them as opposed to not being interested :thup:

We can either discuss my non support of England and people can get their knickers in a twist again and the pitchforks can come out and I can be accused of being a traitor etc again or we can discuss the actual subject of the thread.

I vote discuss about the England Football Team - what say you ?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

You crack me up Phil, you really do!
The words 'drama' and 'queen' spring to mind, I've no idea why .


Slime.

 

[richart]

Why can't Rooney hold the ball up, instead of trying flicks dummies or fifty yard passes ? Playing against weak opposition it doesn't matter so much, but do that against Italy and we will hardly see the ball.

I have come to the conclusion that most English footballers don't have a footballing brain. They may be great at running for 90 minutes, can take a free kick or corner but when they have to think on their feet in open play they are often clueless. Welbeck with men either side just runs straight at the centre half, hoping he will move out of the way. Hold the ball up, bring other players into the game, and if you get nudged from behind just outside the box, give it the big swallow dive.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Why can't Rooney hold the ball up, instead of trying flicks dummies or fifty yard passes ? Playing against weak opposition it doesn't matter so much, but do that against Italy and we will hardly see the ball.

I have come to the conclusion that most English footballers don't have a footballing brain. They may be great at running for 90 minutes, can take a free kick or corner but when they have to think on their feet in open play they are often clueless. Welbeck with men either side just runs straight at the centre half, hoping he will move out of the way. Hold the ball up, bring other players into the game, and if you get nudged from behind just outside the box, give it the big swallow dive.

Rooney should be sat next to Welbeck on the bench ( well Welbeck shouldn't be on the plane )