England and the World Cup

[mikee247]

Poor back line no real flare or outstanding leaders ( Cahill and the Hart aregood but not outstanding) They will be defending against the worlds best strikers not some shin kickers from Norwich or Fulham ( No offence) Im afraid. Excellent future in the midfield and maybe a couple of decent strikers if they can drop their egos at the airport and play together..... Their is some good talent in the squad for sure but not enough world class players to get anywhere near the last 4. Qrt finals is a superb result. happy to be proved wrong but lost the will to live watching England play over the years. Over paid bunch of prima donners!

 

[Birchy]

I think we might surprise a few people a bit like Liverpool have done this season. Got some decent ball players in midfield and attack and I think Jags & Cahill is a vastly underrated centre back pairing. I just hope we don't come undone down the flanks.

Agree with the sentiment of starting Gerrard, Henderson, Sterling, Lallana, Sturridge & Rooney as well. Wellbeck needs to stay on the bench because is just a work horse with no goalscoring instincts.

It all depends on Hodgson though. If he gets us stood off the other teams just watching them pass it side to side and boring the arse off us we will go nowhere. If he gets us pressing high and playing with intensity we have got some real quick danger men to take advantage and we could get a roll on.

We have seen the sat off approach a thousand times before so im praying that gets ditched so we can all enjoy watching England rather than getting pissed off!

 

[evahakool]

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We have seen the sat off approach a thousand times before so im praying that gets ditched so we can all enjoy watching England rather than getting pissed off![/

You can get up of your knees and stop praying not going to happen IMO.

 

[harpo_72]

I was quite happy with the squad. I thought lampard was the surprise until the penalty kick stuff came up. Defoe is past it, sorry but for me I would not have him in the reserves.
As for the rest of the squad well let's get it straight, 1 great player doesn't make a team and defence doesn't start in your half of the pitch. Young hard working players are the key, with discipline. If Gerard plays a holding midfield role and Henderson does the job he does at Liverpool with Llanlana I think we may shake a few trees and rattle some top teams. I personally believe taking partnerships and units into national squads, they have an understanding by playing day in day out with each other. I know we are seeing pairs or 3s but I think it just adds strengths.
I also rate welbeck, I think Moyes did not use him properly, but he scores goals for England and that's what you need, it doesn't have to be pretty it has to hit the back of the net.
So for me I have little expectation but I see the possibilities and I like the breaking away from the egos and has beens!!

 

[Marshy77]

Poor back line no real flare or outstanding leaders ( Cahill and the Hart aregood but not outstanding) They will be defending against the worlds best strikers not some shin kickers from Norwich or Fulham ( No offence) Im afraid. Excellent future in the midfield and maybe a couple of decent strikers if they can drop their egos at the airport and play together..... Their is some good talent in the squad for sure but not enough world class players to get anywhere near the last 4. Qrt finals is a superb result. happy to be proved wrong but lost the will to live watching England play over the years. Over paid bunch of prima donners!

Agree but don't forget that Hart and Cahill have defended against some of the best stikers in the world - Suarez, Aguero, Costa, Messi and they didn't do too bad. Costa was non-existant in the Chelsea games and Suarez failed to score at Anfield against Cahill too, Hart has 13 clean sheets this season - not saying they are the best but think we do undervalue them (I'm very guilty of this too). A quarter final place would be good and then kick on to next campaign by binning some of the older members of the squad and maybe having a squad selection of 30-40 players who are mainly under 30 and believe in moving England forward playing a way that we can use the young lads talent and ability.

 

[Jensen]

The shirt is on order with Suarez on the back :whoo:

Don't bother, he's off to Madrid next season. :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Don't bother, he's off to Madrid next season. :thup:

Can you confirm that then

 

[Birchy]

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We have seen the sat off approach a thousand times before so im praying that gets ditched so we can all enjoy watching England rather than getting pissed off![/

You can get up of your knees and stop praying not going to happen IMO.

It might do for most of us

Who are the Scots adopting for this year? Or is it simply ABE?

 

[FairwayDodger]

It might do for most of us

Who are the Scots adopting for this year? Or is it simply ABE?

Hard to say up front, possibly Brazil. Usually takes some sort of drama to attach me to any particular team, either that or just whoever plays entertaining football over the group stages....

Of course there's always the short term interest supporting whoever England happen to be playing but despite my Italian/Uruguayan/Costa Rican ancestry I'm not sure I'll be following any of them beyond that one game each.....

The world cup's only starting to get on my radar, to be honest, don't even know when it starts! We're all about the Euro-wotsit qualification campaign now!

 

[Jack_bfc]

'Over paid bunch of prima donners!'

99% of Premier league footballers then... Not just the English....

 

[G1BB0]

hmmm not sure about the full squad but I reckon we need some pace against all the teams so for me a midfield of Gerrard (sitting deep), barkley and henderson doing the running and Sterling/Rooney supporting Sturridge would be pretty exciting aslong as they are allowed to 'have a go'

Either that or same old boring England in which case I would hope we didnt get beyond the group.

 

[Jensen]

Can you confirm that then

Don't be so niave to expect any loyalty from Suarez or from most footballers. As soon as there're offered more money they jump ship. Bunch of mercenaries. Suarez was threatening to leave last summer and when Madrid come calling they often get.
Forget contracts they're not worth the paper written on, players have far too much power thanks to Jon Marc Bosman.
It will be bye bye Anfield :whoo:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Don't be so niave to expect any loyalty from Suarez or from most footballers. As soon as there're offered more money they jump ship. Bunch of mercenaries. Suarez was threatening to leave last summer and when Madrid come calling they often get.
Forget contracts they're not worth the paper written on, players have far too much power thanks to Jon Marc Bosman.
It will be bye bye Anfield :whoo:

So no confirmation and Madrid haven't come calling and Suarez hasn't jumped ship :thup:

Expect the same reaction from the club as last summer - not for sale unless you want to pay serious money

Suarez wanted CL football - we told him to stay and earn it with us - he has done and now we look forward to next season with him being boosted by several new arrivals and another tilt at the title.

Now onto England and the World Cup :thup:

 

[JCW]

Another load of dreams , will they do better this time , if he plays the young ones who dont know or have baggage about losing then they do well , hope he dont play lampard and stevie g together again , one or other is fine , they have proved they are not good together

 

[Papas1982]

Another load of dreams , will they do better this time , if he plays the young ones who dont know or have baggage about losing then they do well , hope he dont play lampard and stevie g together again , one or other is fine , they have proved they are not good together

I saw a star a few months ago. That England's win ratio is higher with Gerrard and lampard together than apart since their debuts. Whilst I wouldn't have them together now, I think that's always been a cop out.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I saw a star a few months ago. That England's win ratio is higher with Gerrard and lampard together than apart since their debuts. Whilst I wouldn't have them together now, I think that's always been a cop out.

They have worked together as a pair but what has happened is Gerrard has had to drop deeper to allow Lampard his forward runs - it's curbed Gerrards natural instinct to go forward and England IMO have never got the best out of Gerrard during his peak years.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Actually think Gerrard in the Liverpool role for England will get some more years out of him. His passing his far better than Lampard and he can still get a goal or two. I'd keep him and drop Lampard out of the two

 

[Pin-seeker]

Position Player
GK Iker Casillas
RB Cesar Azpilicueta
CB Gerard Pique
CB Sergio Ramos
LB Jordi Alba
DM Sergio Busquets
CM Andres Iniesta
CM Xavi Hernandez
RAM Cesc Fabregas
LAM Pedro
FW Diego Costa

Spain's probable line up,scary when the likes of Mata & Silva can't make the starting 11.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Reckon Silva will play instead of Fabregas

Bloody good line up

 

[Pin-seeker]

Reckon Silva will play instead of Fabregas

Bloody good line up

Not a bad decision to have to make.
Torres in the squad aswell