Dropping from a hazard or penalty area

[seochris]

Playing in a Stableford and one of my opponents hit his 3 wood into a red staked pond.

So he pick a ref point where it went in and went back 15 yards to the fairway to drop his ball which was nice and flat otherwise with the 1 club length rule he would have been in the nasty little down slope running into the pond. Was he correct as I he query it and he insisted that was ok.

Was he is he correct?

 

[wjemather]

Playing in a Stableford and one of my opponents hit his 3 wood into a red staked pond.

So he pick a ref point where it went in and went back 15 yards to the fairway to drop his ball which was nice and flat otherwise with the 1 club length rule he would have been in the nasty little down slope running into the pond. Was he correct as I he query it and he insisted that was ok.

Was he is he correct?

As long as when taking 'back-on-the-line' relief, in choosing his reference point in the fairway, he kept the point where the ball last crossed into the penalty area on a direct line to the hole, and the ball remained within one club-length of the point it first hit the ground when dropped from knee-height, he was ok.

Also, it's 2 club-lengths for lateral penalty relief, not 1.

 

[Colin L]

If he dropped on the line from the hole through where his ball crossed the edge of the penalty area, he was correct no matter how far back he went. See Rule 17.1d(2).

The one club rule? If you take lateral relief under 17.1d(3), the relief area is two club-lengths.

 

[rulefan]

Playing in a Stableford and one of my opponents hit his 3 wood into a red staked pond.

So he pick a ref point where it went in and went back 15 yards to the fairway to drop his ball which was nice and flat otherwise with the 1 club length rule he would have been in the nasty little down slope running into the pond. Was he correct as I he query it and he insisted that was ok.

Was he is he correct?

Was he purporting to take Lateral Relief (ie to the side) or was he purporting to take Back on the Line relief (as described in post #2)?

 

[seochris]

Must have read it wrong then. it was a Golf Monthly article....

Red Stakes In Golf - Everything You Need To Know!

We run through the options available to you when your ball finds its way into a penalty area marked by red stakes in golf...

www.golfmonthly.com

 

[seochris]

Was he purporting to take Lateral Relief (ie to the side) or was he purporting to take Back on the Line relief (as described in post #2)?

Yes post 2....he went straight back keeping entry point and green in line which I had no issue with. It was weather he could go back as far as he liked....

 

[wjemather]

Must have read it wrong then. it was a Golf Monthly article....

Red Stakes In Golf - Everything You Need To Know!

We run through the options available to you when your ball finds its way into a penalty area marked by red stakes in golf...

www.golfmonthly.com

Note: The back-on-the-line relief area has changed since that GM article was published - it is now a complete one-club-length circle; the point where the ball first hits the ground when dropped becomes the reference point and the ball may come to rest nearer to the hole than that point as long as it remains within one-club-length (see https://www.golfmonthly.com/golf-rules/2023-rules-of-golf-updates-everything-you-need-to-know; although the article only shows unplayable relief, it applies to all back-on-the-line situations).