Driving?

Of course it's easier, I actually hit a lot of fairways but no matter how much you practice and no matter how hard you try it isn't going to happen
but should we not aim to improve with the driver as opposed to hit and hope,i practice hard with my driver and normally hit it to were i intended if it goes into the first cut by a couple of feet no probs but if it is going all over the place how can that be helping your scores>
 
but should we not aim to improve with the driver as opposed to hit and hope,i practice hard with my driver and normally hit it to were i intended if it goes into the first cut by a couple of feet no probs but if it is going all over the place how can that be helping your scores>

To an extent yes, however I'm a firm believer that once you get to a certain standard with your full shots the amount of time practicing it is not proportional to he improvement you make and your time is far better spent on your short game.

Don't get me wrong, it shouldn't be hit and hope but for the average club golfer, you have to practice more on the part that will save you more strokes and that is without question your short game from 100yds and in.
 
I agree that having a short game you can rely on is important but then so is putting,what i don't understand is why people just seem happy to hit a tee shot with the driver and not bothered if it doesn't go were intended and are pleased if it hasn't found trouble.I practice at the range hitting my driver between rugby posts set at 220 yds and this is a good routine knowing i can do this 8 out 10 times helps me visualise on the course,and lets face it if you are consistently hitting fairways make the game more enjoyable rather than hacking out of trouble or trying a seve recovery shot that doesn't come off every other hole.
 
As I said earlier it depends where you miss it, I happen to be a good driver, if I was in the clag all the time, I'd agree with you
 
Get me on a range with a driver and they're all long and straight.

Get me on the course and, literally, anything can happen.

Sorting my driving is the one thing that will lower my scores quicker than anything else.
 
All depends on the course. Where I played before, you could miss fairways with little risk, therefore little importance. Where I play now, there are trees everywhere, missing a fairway = no shot = higher importance as the meercat says "simples".
 
Get me on a range with a driver and they're all long and straight.

Get me on the course and, literally, anything can happen.

Sorting my driving is the one thing that will lower my scores quicker than anything else.

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if I can keep my drives vaguely in the direction of the hole I can score well...... but then when I miss the fairways I can REALLY miss!

also - not sure I agree with the "don't mind playing from the wispy rough in summer camp" - ours is anything BUT - thick, lush and where the bears live!!!!


once read in a mag that the objective for club golfers should be to make our mistakes as late in the hole as possible - afterall if I miss a putt it's only one shot - off the tee I can be in the trees, out of bounds, in the jungle or just plain lost and before you know it my pencil's writing "9"
 
For me the driver can be warm or ice cold but it isn't so much to do with technique. The biggest variable for me is usually tempo and if I can get into a nice rhythmn then I can usually get it round. St Pierre and FoA were two perfect examples. Didn't know the course and didn't want to be spraying it and looking a proper numpty and had two very good driving days.

I think because I know where a good drive could potentially put me on my own course and the fear of certain holes (OB or hazards) the tempo gets quick. It is something I'm addressing. Gear has to play a part too a degree as well. I'm considering my options on drivers and definitely think if I do splurge on something newer than the 08 Burner it'll have to have the optimim shaft for my swing and not just a default regular or stiff
 
For me the driver can be warm or ice cold but it isn't so much to do with technique. The biggest variable for me is usually tempo and if I can get into a nice rhythmn then I can usually get it round. St Pierre and FoA were two perfect examples. Didn't know the course and didn't want to be spraying it and looking a proper numpty and had two very good driving days.

I think because I know where a good drive could potentially put me on my own course and the fear of certain holes (OB or hazards) the tempo gets quick. It is something I'm addressing. Gear has to play a part too a degree as well. I'm considering my options on drivers and definitely think if I do splurge on something newer than the 08 Burner it'll have to have the optimim shaft for my swing and not just a default regular or stiff




R11 S by any chance Homer;)
 
I use my 3 wood or 5 wood off the tee as I'm much more accurate with them. My driver is still to be tamed and gets me into more trouble than it's worth at the moment. I definitely suffer on longer holes due to this but my driver is capable of ruining my swing and tempo as I battle to tame it.
 
As someone who was often roaring "fore right" - keeping the ball in play off the tee is the key. Since I dumped the Nike Driver and took on this old mactec Driver I have gained alot of confidence off the tee. A good drive gets the hole off to a good start. Enjoying a nice draw off the tee carrying about 230 now, not long by any means but its a nice platform to take on the hole.

Hitting provisional and walking down in the hope of finding the first is not a good mindset.
 
As someone who was often roaring "fore right" - keeping the ball in play off the tee is the key. Since I dumped the Nike Driver and took on this old mactec Driver I have gained a lot of confidence off the tee. A good drive gets the hole off to a good start. Enjoying a nice draw off the tee carrying about 230 now, not long by any means but its a nice platform to take on the hole.

Hitting provisional and walking down in the hope of finding the first is not a good mindset.
my point to a tee!! ( no pun intended )
 
I've just tweeted Tiger and told him that he'll never be a really good low h'capper if he doesn't start hitting every fairway. Golf is a game of imagination. None of us are robots. The only shot that matters is the next one. Etc. Etc. Etc. I don't hit every fairway, but I hit a decent proportion, and when I do miss, it's not by much. Occasionally I'll hit a stinker and find myself in some trouble. That's when the fun starts. Low h'cappers are defined by what they do when faced with trouble, just as much as when hitting every fairway, green etc.
 
Accurate driving is a MUST round my gaffe, if you miss the fairway by more than a five or so yards it effictively becomes a lost ball. Long isn't the be all but it really does help, accuracy is far more important for me.
 
Well it's all good and well to say have a good short game,all the pro's have incredible short games just go watch a tournament and see for yourself,that is why they can be wayward off the tee and still make par.If the rest of us put it where tiger put it we would be hitting a provisional,remember they have spotters on every hole and when they find it they have the skills to muscle it down the fairway,most of us mere mortals don't,so it's an extra 1/2 on the card straight away. If you put it in the fairway or first cut theres a good chance you will put it on the green or round about there so chip putt/chip 2 putt for bogey at worst,not a card wrecker by any means. (Unless your on golfwrx where you drive the green and take 10 putts!)
 
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