DQ or not

[Old Skier]

Just got this from the club manager

Re 4BBB
Club Systems has informed me that remote sign on and scoring for this type of competition has not been perfected! So, we will have to use the PSI screens for sign in and score entry. Further details as to how we will accomplish this safely will be forthcoming. For now, please book your tee times on BRS and don't try to sign into the competition using HDiDo.

Had no problem with score entry for individual comps, agree that there is no facility for score entry in team comps.

For BB I just set the comp up for an individual comp in 4's do a random draw and use that for pairing.

 

[woofers]

No
Yes

Thanks.
On that basis, there’s no need to require any scorecards to be completed then? Just put your score in the App and submit it.

 

[SammmeBee]

Thanks.
On that basis, there’s no need to require any scorecards to be completed then? Just put your score in the App and submit it.

As per the Rules of Golf.......

 

[woofers]

As per the Rules of Golf.......

Para ? Reference ?
Really, thanks. The couple of curt replies don’t really do either of you any credit.
It may not occur to you but the reason I’m asking on here is that I‘ve exhausted other avenues including enquiring of other players, committee members, etc all of whom are as confused as me which suggests the wording from the R&A and CONGU isn’t as clear as they might think it is.
The people I’ve spoken to agree that the App is not an electronic scorecard, it is akin to a a mobile PSI.

 

[SammmeBee]

So some golfers can't even send a simple photo of their card, yet some places are basing competition results and prizes based on said golfers inputting their own, unverified scores online?

I'm all for progress and using online tools, but there has to be a physical record, written by a witness, surely, for scores to be legitimate?

I think the person playing with them is the witness.......

 

[SammmeBee]

Para ? Reference ?
Really, thanks. The couple of curt replies don’t really do either of you any credit.
It may not occur to you but the reason I’m asking on here is that I‘ve exhausted other avenues including enquiring of other players, committee members, etc all of whom are as confused as me which suggests the wording from the R&A and CONGU isn’t as clear as they might think it is.
The people I’ve spoken to agree that the App is not an electronic scorecard, it is akin to a a mobile PSI.

It’s Rule 3-3b and then clarified by the modifications to the Rules under COVID-19 but the R&A. Verbal confirmation is fine under the modifications. Scorecards do not need to be on paper.

Get with the program Grandad!

 

[SammmeBee]

How is he verified as a witness though if there is nothing submitted by him?

Same as he does when he witnesses a paper card. There is no requirement to ‘submit’ anything other than the verification of the scores, which up until 6 weeks ago was a signature, but now signing for scores/confirmation can be done in different ways......

 

[Old Skier]

How is he verified as a witness though if there is nothing submitted by him?

That's why we get the marker to submit the players card via email. Various committees have come up with preferred system within the guidance that has been sent out.

 

[SammmeBee]

I repeat the question, how is the marker verified as a witness if there is no card signed by him?

You think 2 days later, old Joe is going to remember what Bob scored on the 15th? ?

He didn’t before either....he only needs to remember in the 10 seconds after the putt went in.

 

[SammmeBee]

Player A submits a scorecard into a box with his name, handicap, his signature and the markers signature on it.

His score wins the competition.

What else do you need to confirm that’s he’s (or she’s) won the competition with the stated score?

 

[rulefan]

Cards are going the way of cash. The RoG have already made provision for cardless apps.

 

[woofers]

So, in a two ball, Player A puts his score in the App, Player B puts his in his App. At the end of round, A says I got 34 points, B says OK, I got 35 points, A replies “sure”.
Thats all above board and OK “with the program” is it ?

 

[SammmeBee]

So, in a two ball, Player A puts his score in the App, Player B puts his in his App. At the end of round, A says I got 34 points, B says OK, I got 35 points, A replies “sure”.
Thats all above board and OK “with the program” is it ?

Simply.....yes!

 

[woofers]

Cards are going the way of cash. The RoG have already made provision for cardless apps.

Yeah, we just need everyone to have a smartphone that accepts it, ...

 

[SammmeBee]

Nothing, that's perfect, that's not the discussion.

Which is what I do on an electronic scoring app......

 

[woofers]

Cards are going the way of cash. The RoG have already made provision for cardless apps.

Any reason Professional Golf haven’t led the way on this ? They’re not short of a bob or two to implement and pave the way?

 

[woofers]

Which is what I do on an electronic scoring app......

Which one? And all your fellow competitors have the same ?

 

[SammmeBee]

Yeah, we just need everyone to have a smartphone that accepts it, ...

Or an alternative that can be worked by those that live in Cornwall.....like fill in a card and chuck your scores into the PSI when you get back in. Usually someone in the 3 can work it.

 

[rulefan]

My county is using GolfGenius

 

[SammmeBee]

Which one? And all your fellow competitors have the same ?

Golf Genius