Do some golfers try too hard?

[bobmac]

Take a look for yourself and you will see how bad it is and the amount of so called swing flaws that are in it.

But as we all know, we dont hit the ball with the backswing so no need to change it

And as anyone who has played with you knows, you hit it miles despite your backswing, not because of it .

 

[3565]

Or, how about the single figure player striving to reach scratch. So far on this thread, we haven't had the opinion of someone who has reached those giddy heights. Is it possible to reach them without removing some of the perceived flaws that could lead to inconsistency?

if you wasn't so intent on tryin to get a cheap laugh and asked more about why I gave the post that I did then you may of got a Cat 1 view on what it takes to try and get to scratch. As for your other post it doesn't warrant a reply as you've made your mind up about what it stands for, but Google definition of acronym finder and you may find what it might stand for.

Sorry bobmac mac that your thread has degenerated a little to the snipes, but it has to start some where and it wasn't from me!
So I'll bow out of this thread and keep my SOW to myself.

 

[Spear-Chucker]

I've always thought this game of ours is one the hardest to master of all therefore it lends itself to small incremental changes, over time, to continue to develop. One man's swing flaws are anothers gold dust (to badly paraphrase someone much cleverer than I) so there are clearly many ways to achieve what you want from the game. Unorthodox needs as much maintenance as 'allegedly' technically perfect however so not sure there are any real winners.

Flame material I know, but I think there's too much emphasis on positions and theory and not enough minor adjustment based upon what the ball does. I also still like the idea of the Empire as well so read any comments at your own risk.

 

[MadAdey]

But as we all know, we dont hit the ball with the backswing so no need to change it

And as anyone who has played with you knows, you hit it miles despite your backswing, not because of it .

All I worry about is getting into a good impact position, I don't give a damn how I get it there, as long as I do it the same every time.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Im always hearing, at this time of year, many saying that they are going to spend the winter on swing changes.
It kind of goes like this.....

Winter - make changes
Spring - try it on the course
Summer - tweak it as its not quite right
Autumn - feel its coming together
Winter - make changes...............

Constantly making changes means you can't get used to the changes that you've made
So you think the changes aren't working so you make more changes.....
I'm not saying don't make these changes, just give them a chance to work
And I have no problem with people wanting to improve but constantly changing this and tweaking that means you can't see what's working and what isn't.
Here's a radical thought - play with what you have for a year, grow into your swing, get to know it.

Just my view...I haven't knowingly changed my swing for 15 years or more.
It will have changed but its not something I've worked on.

That sounds like the yearly routine of Padraig Harrington

I try not to change to much

If anything they only thing I have tried is different ball positions in my stance but unless everything is falling about and a new swing is needed then don't think there is a need for a yearly change

I can never understand the phrase "winter work" ?!

 

[garyinderry]

I'm lucky if two of my swings resemble each other never mind being the same. :rofl:

 

[ScienceBoy]

As long as your changing something to cure a problem, not just because it looks wrong.

I have been working on the same faults since I took up golf, like nearly 5 years ago. Everything I work on is something one of four pros have told me. My 1st ever coach, the 2nd one I had, yourself and my most recent one. Each one I saw for a year or more (apart from yourself who has been coaching me for four via a V-Easy).

I have never gone through a swing rebuild, I just have worked on getting a good posture, a good stance, a good grip and a good takeaway. These all were to get four things, upright, neutral, neutral and width on plane.

If those are right I middle a ball right down the target line. I have been told I have a good natural swing and I just need to help it happen with good tempo (ie not rushed).

It feels like easy power now, I love width!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

My swing is unique and a million miles from textbook. All I've tried to do over the last two years worth of lessons is strip away the moving parts and find something simpler and more reliable and focussed much more on impact and delivering the club to the ball in a repeatable manner. A world away from my starting part and much better than it was. It can still get better though which is why I won't stop working with the teaching pro I use to get even better and closer to single figures

 

[NWJocko]

if you wasn't so intent on tryin to get a cheap laugh and asked more about why I gave the post that I did then you may of got a Cat 1 view on what it takes to try and get to scratch. As for your other post it doesn't warrant a reply as you've made your mind up about what it stands for, but Google definition of acronym finder and you may find what it might stand for.

Sorry bobmac mac that your thread has degenerated a little to the snipes, but it has to start some where and it wasn't from me!
So I'll bow out of this thread and keep my SOW to myself.

No idea what SOW means but be good to hear your views

Apologies if I'm wrong but you seem to take golf very seriously and have great pride in being Cat1 so would be interesting to hear your opinion.

Mainly because you appear to the polar opposite of my approach to golf so am genuinely interested.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No idea what SOW means but be good to hear your views

Apologies if I'm wrong but you seem to take golf very seriously and have great pride in being Cat1 so would be interesting to hear your opinion.

Mainly because you appear to the polar opposite of my approach to golf so am genuinely interested.

Sense of Wonder

Special Operations Wing

Sound of Water



And I'm the same as you then it appears in approach to the game

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Did we ever get the answer to SOW in the context it was used here though?

 

[Rocstar]

Did we ever get the answer to SOW in the context it was used here though?

Ive been racking my brains over that too, from his initial post You can perceive it to be self opinionated anchor, which could well be it, but his last post stated 'I'll will keep my SOW to myself' which doesn't sound right if W stands for what we think! It's something else.

 

[garyinderry]

it comes back to people watching the pros too much IMO. We all hear about how even the best players in the world do swing changes over winter. But there is one huge difference, they will spend a week hitting 2-300 balls a day with their coach stood next to them implementing those changes. The handicap golfer will go to the range have 2 buckets of balls, twice a week and think they can make swing changes. My old pro told me that he could fix my backswing, but it would take 2-3 hours a day for a week, basically more than the price of a set of clubs.

That's a lot of money and time I do not have to put into changing my backswing. Take a look for yourself and you will see how bad it is and the amount of so called swing flaws that are in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9l90i_ekjA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KdpQ7VN6qs

Swing reminds me of Shawn clement's swing. Cracking that whip. quirky swing. Nice one lad :thup:

 

[SocketRocket]

The way I see this is that many people try very hard but often working to ingrain a poor golf swing. They often spend time with a Golf Pro but don't really understand what matters and what doesn't. Rather than working primarily on good impact conditions they work on their swing and as pointed out before many parts of the swing don't hit the ball.

To create good ball flighting you must create an impact to produce it and the focus for this is what happens from waist high in the down swing to waist heigh in the forward swing, or as it's often called 'The impact zone' OK! in saying this if you reach good positions throughout the swing you will not need to make big compensations to get you back on plane. It's true men like Furyk can make a geeky backswing and return to the ball on plane but its not a way you would teach someone, compensations are difficult and in the main lead to inconsistency.

 

[MadAdey]

Sense of Wonder

Special Operations Wing

Sound of Water



And I'm the same as you then it appears in approach to the game

maybe be it means....Silly Old W............

Stand Or Walk

Strange Old Wording

Saggy Old Willy........

 

[Rocstar]

maybe be it means....Silly Old W............

Stand Or Walk

Strange Old Wording

Saggy Old Willy........

:rofl:Saggy old willy........ I like that.

Or it may stand for what they call a female pig.........