Difference between TIGER and RORY

therod said:
Sorry I left off IMO, which makes it not 'utter nonsense', the fella leaves me cold.

If you want to be taken in by the 'just do it' win at all costs, break jacks record and leave the building it's up to you.

If he does break the major record, it will be a sad day for golf...IMO:thup:
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if you want to ignore the facts then it is utter nonsense! your opinion however, is just that.
 
therod said:
Agree, it's not just about winning and cash, it's about legacy. How you're remembered after you retire. Can you imagine tiger at the open wistfully remembering his career with some of his contemporaries...maybe not. He'll be remembered but not fondly.

Tiger doesn't give to the game he just takes !!

I hope Rory can follow jacks template and not tigers
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Ask ANY current or future golfer who changed the face of the sport. It will be TW. They wouldn't be earning anything like they are now if it wasn't for the money. You reckon the old pros do tv work for the love of the game? Maybe, but I bet the vast sums of money they receive help too! You don't get to the top without being single minded and I'm sure in 30 years when wounds is old and a grandad people will think better of him. But until then it'll still be the old boys are heroes and utters the villain.
 
triple_bogey said:
Not sure if you are serious, but its a well known fact that Jack was just as driven and had that high intensity to win just like 'you know who'.
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I was gonna cite jacks concession to tony jacklin, but then I remembered tigers similar concession last time around, in slightly different circumstances but a generous gesture non the less.

It's subjective, and we all have our own opinions but maybe Jacks will to win was dressed up in a more attractive sheen??:confused:

Maybe he just did it with more style,
I'm paraphrasing but tiger said the cup was lost anyway...what's the point.

I'm sure jack went on record as saying that he didn't want tony jacklin to go down in history as the fella who lost the Ryder cup
 
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therod said:
Agree, it's not just about winning and cash, it's about legacy. How you're remembered after you retire. Can you imagine tiger at the open wistfully remembering his career with some of his contemporaries...maybe not. He'll be remembered but not fondly.

Tiger doesn't give to the game he just takes !!

I hope Rory can follow jacks template and not tigers
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This is getting a bit stupid now. By all means dislike Tiger if you want, but to suggest he doesn't give anything back is just ridiculous.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
This is getting a bit stupid now. By all means dislike Tiger if you want, but to suggest he doesn't give anything back is just ridiculous.
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I'm not talking charitable foundations, all top sports stars do that, and it's commendable but not unusual.

I'm talking specifically about enhancing the image of the game. He falls a bit short in that department, he's taken a lot, it's made him, but what has he done for the image of the game? Educate me :thup:
 
therod said:
I was gonna cite jacks concession to tony jacklin, but then I remembered tigers similar concession last time around, in slightly different circumstances but a generous gesture non the less.

It's subjective, and we all have our own opinions but maybe Jacks will to win was dressed up in a more attractive sheen??:confused:

Maybe he just did it with more style,
I'm paraphrasing but tiger said the cup was lost anyway...what's the point.

I'm sure jack went on record as saying that he didn't want tony jacklin to go down in history as the fella who lost the Ryder cup
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i think a lot of it is to do with exposure too. If these old timers had their every act followed, maybe they wouldn't be so laid back? Times change as do our perceptions. I'm sure in the long run it'll be hard for anyine to justify woods being bad for the sport?
 
therod said:
I'm not talking charitable foundations, all top sports stars do that, and it's commendable but not unusual.

I'm talking specifically about enhancing the image of the game. He falls a bit short in that department, he's taken a lot, it's made him, but what has he done for the image of the game? Educate me :thup:
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Made it a worldwide sport that is a top package for any sports provider. Money and interest in golf has risen as meteoric ally as woods himself. All current pros acknowledge that without woods their lives wouldn't be as they are now. He has also made it so that future golfers are better athletes. Meaning golf is now more widely accepted as a sport. When I grew up I considered it an old mans game and not a sport. Look at some of the youngsters these days. All pin up boys. He has changes the image of the game immeasurable.
 
therod said:
I'm not talking charitable foundations, all top sports stars do that, and it's commendable but not unusual.

I'm talking specifically about enhancing the image of the game. He falls a bit short in that department, he's taken a lot, it's made him, but what has he done for the image of the game? Educate me :thup:
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Papas1982 said:
Made it a worldwide sport that is a top package for any sports provider. Money and interest in golf has risen as meteoric ally as woods himself. All current pros acknowledge that without woods their lives wouldn't be as they are now. He has also made it so that future golfers are better athletes. Meaning golf is now more widely accepted as a sport. When I grew up I considered it an old mans game and not a sport. Look at some of the youngsters these days. All pin up boys. He has changes the image of the game immeasurable.
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Education enough :D
 
Papas1982 said:
Made it a worldwide sport that is a top package for any sports provider. Money and interest in golf has risen as meteoric ally as woods himself. All current pros acknowledge that without woods their lives wouldn't be as they are now. He has also made it so that future golfers are better athletes. Meaning golf is now more widely accepted as a sport. When I grew up I considered it an old mans game and not a sport. Look at some of the youngsters these days. All pin up boys. He has changes the image of the game immeasurable.
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Im pretty sure golf was a world wide sport before tiger was on the scene and i remember golf being very popular before he appeared too. however i dont think you would see anywhere near the number of black people playing golf if it wasn't for tiger.
 
Papas1982 said:
Made it a worldwide sport that is a top package for any sports provider. Money and interest in golf has risen as meteoric ally as woods himself. All current pros acknowledge that without woods their lives wouldn't be as they are now. He has also made it so that future golfers are better athletes. Meaning golf is now more widely accepted as a sport. When I grew up I considered it an old mans game and not a sport. Look at some of the youngsters these days. All pin up boys. He has changes the image of the game immeasurable.
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Exactly my image of golf as I was growing up. Snobby crusty dinosaurs sneering in awful badly fitted clothing. :rofl:
 
therod said:
Pleasant as always :thup: I prefered the other fella.. Darth what's his name :D
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he's still here, this guys just less tolerant these days with conjecture, hearsay and gossip. Not saying any of what you have posted is.
 
Papas1982 said:
Made it a worldwide sport that is a top package for any sports provider. Money and interest in golf has risen as meteoric ally as woods himself. All current pros acknowledge that without woods their lives wouldn't be as they are now. He has also made it so that future golfers are better athletes. Meaning golf is now more widely accepted as a sport. When I grew up I considered it an old mans game and not a sport. Look at some of the youngsters these days. All pin up boys. He has changes the image of the game immeasurable.
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The pro tour isn't golf...what's he done for golf??

Maybe I'm being wistfully naive but I could see jack handing out the trophies at the junior presentation dinner, being aware of his place in the sport, understanding his responsibility of what and who went before and who and what come afterwards.

I can't see that in tigger!

This is really off topic now but if Rory doesn't compare to tiger that's a positive, he should be setting his sights higher :thup:
 
therod said:
I'm not talking charitable foundations, all top sports stars do that, and it's commendable but not unusual.

I'm talking specifically about enhancing the image of the game. He falls a bit short in that department, he's taken a lot, it's made him, but what has he done for the image of the game? Educate me :thup:
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TW was almost single handedly responsible for getting a lot of youngsters across the world into the game and that is a legacy. Whether he will be remembered with fondness is a different matter. Definitely enhanced the image though
 
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