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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

bobmac said:
If the non vaccinated get vaccinated, will there be more variants?
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Of course, variants will arrive from countries that have very low vaccination rates plus we know that the vaccinated can still transmit the virus so it'll continue to evolve. Hopefully the evolution will continue towards a milder strain etc.
 
road2ruin said:
Guess the issue is, if you don't allow events this year what happens next year? Covid is likely to be seasonal, next year there will almost certainly be another variant and we can't keep cancelling events etc as soon as we get into Winter.
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Societal robustness to covid through vaccination and acquired immunity will be much higher next winter…let’s just get through this winter and spring as best we can. Plus Whitty advises that not too far down the road we will have much more sophisticated and flexible vaccines than the single variant type we have at the moment - with the flexibility that should hopefully be able to cope with many variants.
 
Dr Purvi Parikh doesn't agree...

Unvaccinated People Are Increasing the Chances for More Coronavirus Variants


If everyone is vaccinated, eventually infections drop to zero and so do variants,“ Parikh said. “But if the virus has an easy host, such as an unvaccinated individual, then it is easy for it to mutate into a more contagious and virulent form.”

https://www.healthline.com/health-n...ances-for-more-coronavirus-variants-heres-how
 
bobmac said:
Dr Purvi Parikh doesn't agree...

Unvaccinated People Are Increasing the Chances for More Coronavirus Variants


If everyone is vaccinated, eventually infections drop to zero and so do variants,“ Parikh said. “But if the virus has an easy host, such as an unvaccinated individual, then it is easy for it to mutate into a more contagious and virulent form.”

https://www.healthline.com/health-n...ances-for-more-coronavirus-variants-heres-how
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In that case we should be sending our vaccinations abroad rather than giving it to 5 year olds!! Anyway, in answer to your original question the answer is still 'yes', there will be further variants as large parts of the world are still not vaccinated.
 
bobmac said:
Dr Purvi Parikh doesn't agree...

Unvaccinated People Are Increasing the Chances for More Coronavirus Variants


If everyone is vaccinated, eventually infections drop to zero and so do variants,“ Parikh said. “But if the virus has an easy host, such as an unvaccinated individual, then it is easy for it to mutate into a more contagious and virulent form.”

https://www.healthline.com/health-n...ances-for-more-coronavirus-variants-heres-how
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That (bold bit) assumes that all the variants arose from human infection.
As the original source of the virus was not human (probably bats?) there is still the the possibility/likelihood of variants coming from other sources/hosts.
 
SocketRocket said:
I had an anti-inflammatory knee injection from a specialist when I'd damaged my cartilage, felt great for around three days then seemed worse than before.
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It is fine for specific purposes, usually an inflammatory flare, but repeat doses, especially over a short time are a bad idea. I am doing some work with doctors who treat various forms of arthritis, and more than a few of them really hate steroids injections for joints.
 
bobmac said:
Dr Purvi Parikh doesn't agree...

Unvaccinated People Are Increasing the Chances for More Coronavirus Variants


If everyone is vaccinated, eventually infections drop to zero and so do variants,“ Parikh said. “But if the virus has an easy host, such as an unvaccinated individual, then it is easy for it to mutate into a more contagious and virulent form.”

https://www.healthline.com/health-n...ances-for-more-coronavirus-variants-heres-how
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She (edit after bobmac comment) is partly right. Viruses really like partially immune people, because they have some resistance but not enough, so that drives evolution of a fitter virus. It may not be a coincidence that several variants have arisen in parts of Africa with a high prevalence of HIV, where they have an impaired immune response.
 
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Ethan said:
It is fine for specific purposes, usually an inflammatory flare, but repeat doses, especially over a short time are a bad idea. I am doing some work with doctors who treat various forms of arthritis, and more than a few of them really hate steroids injections for joints.
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It was a Cortisone injection. Is that anti-inflammatory?
 
Foxholer said:
That (bold bit) assumes that all the variants arose from human infection.
As the original source of the virus was not human (probably bats?) there is still the the possibility/likelihood of variants coming from other sources/hosts.
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As to the source, Ive not seen evidence that non human involvement has been entirely proven. Is there such evidence?
 
Swinglowandslow said:
As to the source, Ive not seen evidence that non human involvement has been entirely proven. Is there such evidence?
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Only 'beliefs', same as 'via leak from Chinese lab'. - the 'Human inolvement' belief, which happens to be more 'convenient' for conspiracy theorists. There doesn't appear to be convincing evidence either way.
https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3001115#sec001
Other Covid (not this one/these ones) virus sources are definitely believed to be animal sourced, certainly the MERS one that appear to utilise Dromendary Camels, though original source is also suggested as bats.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-...t-respiratory-syndrome-coronavirus-(mers-cov)
 
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Going into our local Co Op this morning and it looks like some just aren’t going to bother with masks - the staff said it was the same demographic- the under 30’s , you could see that this morning as well , the guys walking in to the shop just not wearing , when challenged- its the same “meh” response
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Going into our local Co Op this morning and it looks like some just aren’t going to bother with masks - the staff said it was the same demographic- the under 30’s , you could see that this morning as well , the guys walking in to the shop just not wearing , when challenged- its the same “meh” response
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Unfortunately you'll not get irresponsible idiots acting responsibly especially when many do it to make a misguided statement of bravado or rebellion!
 
Had 2 texts from clients, within 4 minutes of each other, saying they e been in contact with a +ve tester....sensible thing to do is cancel the lessons....
Could be a quiet end to the year....
 
South Africa & WHO: 'Omicron is really mild and no risk to anyone and it is a disgrace that you are restricting travel'

Travel Ban Lifted

Also South Africa: 'Actually it looks like Omicron is just as harmful as anything else and our hopital figures are rising'
 
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