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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

woofers said:
Would it improve our understanding of the risks, likelihood and potential outcomes of the current situation if the figures for cases, hospitalisations and deaths could be differentiated by vaccinated, unvaccinated and underlying health issues? When the pandemic figures were first reported in 2020 ‘underlying health issues’ were included, why no longer ?
How do the cases, hospitalisations and deaths compare with, what was, a ‘normal’ flu season? What are the current figures for flu ?
I am not trying to belittle the current restrictions, just wanting to put a bit more perspective on the situation now that we are almost 2 years on from the original outbreak when little was known about the virus.
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That is a complicated analysis. You would need age, gender, ethnicity., BMI, what type of vaccine, when given, but almost all of that data would relate to previous variants.

Flu rates were vastly reduced last season, over 90% down, so there is a degree of substitution taking place.

Covid affects a different, if overlapping demographic, with more young and middle aged people affected, but has a lower age-specific hospitalisation or kill rate. Covid also has more post-infection complications, some clinical such as long Covid, others subclinical and probably not identified at the time, but can be found on routine screening of "recovered" patients.
 
road2ruin said:
From today's Plan B briefing....

"If I'm in a theatre watching a musical, can I take my mask off to sing?"

No10: "Yes. There is a general exemption for singing"

"So could I walk into Tesco without a mask as long as I'm singing?"

"No10: "Essentially, yes"

:LOL:
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But why on earth would sensible people look to find ways around guidance that is in place for everyone's well being?
 
drdel said:
But why on earth would sensible people look to find ways around guidance that is in place for everyone's well being?
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Because some think it is a wonderful way of point scoring to create obscure ways around guidelines when the correct response should have been, be responsible, use common sense and where a mask in most places unless the activity that you are doing makes mask wearing not possible.
 
fenwayrich said:
I simply cannot understand why, walking round a shop, masks are compulsory, whereas it is permissible to do exactly the same thing in a pub or restaurant without one.
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1. Difficult to eat and drink wearing a mask ?

2. Importantly, people don't have to go into pubs etc. They choose to take the risk if they want to imbibe. But members of public have to shop to live.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
1. Difficult to eat and drink wearing a mask ?

2. Importantly, people don't have to go into pubs etc. They choose to take the risk if they want to imbibe. But members of public have to shop to live.
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But do they? We've barely set foot in a supermarket since all this started, having gone to home deliveries.

Essentially I agree with what you're saying, that we will have to do some shopping, but even that can be vastly reduced. And frankly I'm not missing the supermarket; once this is all over, food deliveries look likely to be our new normal.
 
GB72 said:
Because some think it is a wonderful way of point scoring to create obscure ways around guidelines when the correct response should have been, be responsible, use common sense and where a mask in most places unless the activity that you are doing makes mask wearing not possible.
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The new national pastime. ?
Frankly, when I think of this nation now, and liken it to a person, I see an image of a priest kneeling with his shirt torn off his back and his arm holding a whip flogging his back, because of all his past sins.?
 
drdel said:
...they have had to make decisions on the hoof without the benefit of hindsight or your wisdom. ...
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Indeed, that's a major reason why. But not a good enough one from professional decision makers - which I am certainly not, so I also object to you snidey insult!
 
In Germany when WFH and walking from your bed to the desk has been classified a a 'commute ' as someone made a claim after injury.

Be careful with your keyboards Forumers;);)
 
Swinglowandslow said:
1. Difficult to eat and drink wearing a mask ?

2. Importantly, people don't have to go into pubs etc. They choose to take the risk if they want to imbibe. But members of public have to shop to live.
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Nope. You can get your groceries and pretty much anything else you need delivered.
 
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