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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Fade and Die said:
I myself have said that I would wear a mask on the tube but I support the end of restrictions, and do you really think this populist government would be lifting restrictions if it didn’t have support?
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Support from backbenchers and key cronies and media outlets seems more important than anybody else. They don't have anything like support in health and medicine sectors and it seems fairly clear Whitty has serious reservations. A lot of people, myself included, are quite concerned about how it is going to go.
 
Fade and Die said:
I myself have said that I would wear a mask on the tube but I support the end of restrictions, and do you really think this populist government would be lifting restrictions if it didn’t have support?
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They wanted to keep face masks and social distancing but the back benchers wouldn’t support them - this current government doesn’t have a clue what the people in the country want - London maybe but not the whole country
 
Ethan said:
Support from backbenchers and key cronies and media outlets seems more important than anybody else. They don't have anything like support in health and medicine sectors and it seems fairly clear Whitty has serious reservations. A lot of people, myself included, are quite concerned about how it is going to go.
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I'll be pleased to stand corrected if it ends well.
 
It’s not going to “end well” is it. The obsession with testing will ensure the numbers remain high.

Although It will be interesting when the season changes and we see just how effective the “vaccination” really is.
 
Fade and Die said:
It’s not going to “end well” is it. The obsession with testing will ensure the numbers remain high.

Although It will be interesting when the season changes and we see just how effective the “vaccination” really is.
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But these tests catch cases without symptoms which could infect others so pushes down numbers long term
 
I fear that the lifting of restrictions is a bad idea - I mean, haven't they already been lifted? You'd of thought so the way many people are now behaving and number of infections is going up.....FAST!

Those who have had the 2 jabs can rest easy knowing that they are less likely to get seriously ill or die if they become infected. BUT [Ethan, help me out here], what happens when the virus starts mutating and changes to the extent that the vaccines provide very little or no protection? I'm sure that I read somewhere that the AZ vaccine doesn't protect against the latest strain.

I believe that there will be the need for another lockdown, and if so, the next one should be the toughest, mother of all lockdowns if we are ever going to stand a chance of beating this. I know it sounds harsh, but a complete zero tolerance approach such as no mask, no entry. Yes, that would be tough on those that legitimately cannot wear one, but I'm afraid that far too many people have taken the P over the past 18 months. Ignoring the rules should result in sever action - even if that means setting up Covid camps. If you don't want to wear a mask, or socially distance, or think of others' welfare, then you're more than welcome to go live with like minded people.....away from those that act responsibly. But what about Human Rights? I hear you cry.....Covid doesn't care about Human Rights. There are far too many people not toeing the line and that is partly why we are where we are today.

Alternatively, let's go back to normal and learn to live (or die) with it.
 
Fade and Die said:
It’s not going to “end well” is it. The obsession with testing will ensure the numbers remain high.

Although It will be interesting when the season changes and we see just how effective the “vaccination” really is.
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Like many millions of others, I do a couple of lateral flow tests every week. If I'm visiting my elderly father, I want to know I'm probably not going to infect him. Likewise my mother-in-law. Likewise any stranger on a train or in a shop who may be vulnerable without realising it.
It's not an obsession and I can't see how anyone could conceive it as negative behaviour.
On public transport tomorrow, I'll be wearing a mask with filters and will continue to do so, to protect myself, those I love and others I don't know.
It just seems like common sense and common courtesy until tens of thousands of people a day aren't getting infected.
I'll carry on the same way as long as learning to live with it equals learning to live with seeing people dying from it.
Maybe those with a more cavalier attitude haven't known as many people get long term sick or die as others have.
 
Ethan said:
Masks are actually to protect others more than to protect yourself. I bet you some morons will say exactly that stuff to people wearing them, starting tomorrow morning.

Requiring people on public transport to wear masks has no effect on opening up the country. It might stop it being closed down again in a few weeks.

It is reported that the Govt wanted to keep masks b ut did not want to have to reply on opposition support to pass it, so they dropped it. That strongly suggests scientific advice was to keep masks and various statements by relevant people since confirm this.

The vaccine drive has been successful but not enough have been vaccinated to simultaneously abandon a load of regulations at once. There was an opportunity for a measured and. careful relaxation, but the Govt has gone too far, mostly out of political cowardice.
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What about the member of SAGE who came out and said that cloth masks are a complete waste of time a ‘safety blanket’ as the size of the virus are far smaller than the size of the holes in a cloth mask which the vast majority wear. Surely if masks are to be kept then at least have people wearing something that will do some sort of job.
 
I wrote a day or so ago that my daughters partner, a Bobby has now had to isolate for the 3rd time since Xmas, Because he deals with the unpleasant side of society. I was bloody livid reading that our beloved prime minister and chancellor, didn’t have to isolate having come into contact with the health secretary. (Not the one that’s been not been keeping a 2 m distance ?). Cause they were in some king of a trial where you get tested every day.
it now appears that our beloved prime minister and others have done another U turn because of the backlash. Just staring facts. But am so close to a rant. And impending fraction ?
 
road2ruin said:
What about the member of SAGE who came out and said that cloth masks are a complete waste of time a ‘safety blanket’ as the size of the virus are far smaller than the size of the holes in a cloth mask which the vast majority wear. Surely if masks are to be kept then at least have people wearing something that will do some sort of job.
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You can’t expect people to look after themselves now and wear something for their own protection.
Who would they shame and blame then?
 
Tashyboy said:
I wrote a day or so ago that my daughters partner, a Bobby has now had to isolate for the 3rd time since Xmas, Because he deals with the unpleasant side of society. I was bloody livid reading that our beloved prime minister and chancellor, didn’t have to isolate having come into contact with the health secretary. (Not the one that’s been not been keeping a 2 m distance ?). Cause they were in some king of a trial where you get tested every day.
it now appears that our beloved prime minister and others have done another U turn because of the backlash. Just staring facts. But am so close to a rant. And impending fraction ?
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youll be fine, plenty of others have made their views clear without infractions ;) seems theyre fair game
 
Beezerk said:
Results back already, positive.
So much for fever, cough and loss of taste as the main symptoms, mine started with a bit of a sore throat and the odd sneeze just like a normal cold.
If you Google for covid symptoms after two jabs it comes up exactly what I have :rolleyes:
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GWS Martyn
 
Beezerk said:
Results back already, positive.
So much for fever, cough and loss of taste as the main symptoms, mine started with a bit of a sore throat and the odd sneeze just like a normal cold.
If you Google for covid symptoms after two jabs it comes up exactly what I have :rolleyes:
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been a few posts about it recently, take a look at tim spector of zoe re symptoms, and get well soon
 
Beezerk said:
Results back already, positive.
So much for fever, cough and loss of taste as the main symptoms, mine started with a bit of a sore throat and the odd sneeze just like a normal cold.
If you Google for covid symptoms after two jabs it comes up exactly what I have :rolleyes:
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Gutted for you

I know multiple people with the same symptoms as you and have tested posted hence that picture I put up - hence why you were spot on to get a PCR

I have also had the same symptoms but have come back negative - doctor said I have bad hay fever, there is also a bug going around
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Gutted for you

I know multiple people with the same symptoms as you and have tested posted hence that picture I put up - hence why you were spot on to get a PCR

I have also had the same symptoms but have come back negative - doctor said I have bad hay fever, there is also a bug going around
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assumed i have been suffering worse than normal from hayfever here too
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Gutted for you

I know multiple people with the same symptoms as you and have tested posted hence that picture I put up - hence why you were spot on to get a PCR

I have also had the same symptoms but have come back negative - doctor said I have bad hay fever, there is also a bug going around
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Got to be honest, this afternoon I was convinced I'd dropped a clanger as it just felt a bit like hay fever, snotty nose, itchy eyes etc.
We were supposed to be going away to Ambleside this coming weekend for some nice food and a bit of walking, gutted we'll have to cancel but I'm sure there are people out there in a much worse place than us.
 
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