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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

pauljames87 said:
I'm not disputing what your saying I'm interested how can we be sure it will cause future liver, heart and renal failures when its still a new illness?
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Because the damage is already evident in many "recovered" patients if you look for it.

It also stands to reason, because Covid is not a respiratory infection, it is a systemic (whole body) inflammatory condition, like sepsis, and the effects of that, and other similar inflammatory conditions, is well known.

Here is a paper on brain MRI findings in “recovered” Covid patients. MRI after Covid
 
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road2ruin said:
For me that's just political gesturing, the Delta variant is already in Europe (albeit at low levels at the moment) and based on previous figures Europe are a few weeks behind us. On that basis they'll likely face a similar rise in infections in the coming month as the Delta variant takes hold.

Thing is as soon as Delta becomes the norm it'll be Theta, Iota or Kappa next up......
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This is the key aspect. You wouldn't say that it isn't worth trying to stem the bleeding just because it has already started. Less delta is better than more. Why let more in?

Theta etc will certainly come. It remains to be seen what their characteristics are, but for now, it makes sense to try to minimise the effects of Delta.
 
Ethan said:
This is the key aspect. You wouldn't say that it isn't worth trying to stem the bleeding just because it has already started. Less delta is better than more. Why let more in?

Theta etc will certainly come. It remains to be seen what their characteristics are, but for now, it makes sense to try to minimise the effects of Delta.
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I agree about trying not to let more in however it's highly likely that even if they closed shop now it'd still be the dominant strain in 2-3 weeks time. The furture variants will always find a way into the countries, we just have to hope that it doesn't mutate into something nastier however there isn't going to be a huge amount we can do about that especially once international travel becomes back again.
 
road2ruin said:
I agree about trying not to let more in however it's highly likely that even if they closed shop now it'd still be the dominant strain in 2-3 weeks time. The furture variants will always find a way into the countries, we just have to hope that it doesn't mutate into something nastier however there isn't going to be a huge amount we can do about that especially once international travel becomes back again.
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Sure, but the height of the peak may be reduced. It's a firefighting approach.
 
road2ruin said:
For me that's just political gesturing, the Delta variant is already in Europe (albeit at low levels at the moment) and based on previous figures Europe are a few weeks behind us. On that basis they'll likely face a similar rise in infections in the coming month as the Delta variant takes hold.

Thing is as soon as Delta becomes the norm it'll be Theta, Iota or Kappa next up......
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think youll find Delta plus is already next and already in the UK
 
fundy said:
whilst parents being told they cant attend their kids sportsdays.....................
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Parents not attending sports days will be brilliant for the kids. They can enjoy their day without a load of red faced parents screaming at them.
 
Perhaps such as schools should be able to sign up their sports day as being a ‘test event’ and follow all necessary procedures.

The complaint ‘If A then why not B‘ for me could be countered when A and B were similar but we couldn‘t have both due to aggregated risk...but when one sports event such as the GP or Euros cup final is equivalent to 100 school sports days then the aggregation rationale I used to be a proponent of, to me simply fails and we just look at the absurdity of what’s being allowed and what isn’t.

With that the government loses the public and we veer towards a ‘free for all’. And that I fear would not be good. Risk of throwing away much of the progress made in managing the spread of the virus - with all that that entails.
 
A school sports day does not produce any meaningful data. The purpose of the large scale events is to ascertain the impact based on removing regulations in a few weeks. I guess that wathcing little Timmy do the egg and spoon race does not feed anything valuable into the mix when making decisions on large scale events.
 
GB72 said:
A school sports day does not produce any meaningful data. The purpose of the large scale events is to ascertain the impact based on removing regulations in a few weeks. I guess that wathcing little Timmy do the egg and spoon race does not feed anything valuable into the mix when making decisions on large scale events.
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no but stopping parents go to them whilst seeing 60,000 at wembley or 150,000 at silverstone is hacking off a lot of people and engendering less trust and causing more division, just what some would want i hear you say..........its not all about the large scale events.
 
fundy said:
no but stopping parents go to them whilst seeing 60,000 at wembley or 150,000 at silverstone is hacking off a lot of people and engendering less trust and causing more division, just what some would want i hear you say..........its not all about the large scale events.
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The only people who are complaining about not going to sports day, are the same people who would complain if all parents were allowed to go to sports day.
 
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