Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

road2ruin said:
The 29th will happen so wouldn't worry about that. The other thing I would bear in mind is that the R number wasn't part of the unlocking and it was always expected to rise, it is cases and hospitalisations that are going to be key.
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I'd go a bit further, UKs testing level which was already high has been increasing with schools back. I think the "system" can handle an amount of cases increase as long as hospitalisations (as you mention) and deaths remain low.

I do share as others the concern with the case numbers around much of mainland Europe, especially as UK loosens it's rules which inevitably means more moving about. Just hope the vac levels are enough to see us through and the mainland cases numbers drop off with the weather improving. ?
 
Hobbit said:
The issue in the Balearics is a little more complex, but it shouldn't be. In the run up to the summer holidays last year a significant number of Germans used whatever leverage they could find to be allowed to travel there. They are the majority holiday home owners in the Balearics by a significant margin. Threats of selling up at knockdown prices and boycotts etc. The local govt, bear in mind each of the regions are semi-autonomous, caved in for fear of the damage to the local economy.

Each of the semi-autonomous regions have 'sealed their borders from last Saturday for 3+weeks to curtail holiday travelling.... apart from Madrid who has said their citizens are free to travel wherever they wish in Spain. In reality, Madrid can say they are free to leave but if the borders 'into' the other regions are sealed, who knows.

The Madridians haven't taken any notice of any travel ban since June last year, and there's been the odd fight down on the Playa because of it. Cars and motor homes have been arriving throughout the lockdown that has just ended. Not lots but enough to cause friction. I expect Easter will see a few more fights.
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Surely the German Government could of taken steps to prevent travel, I understand it’s a very, very dificult time for those around Europe whose livelihoods depend on tourism, but surely they’ll be returning to Germany sometime.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I'm not going to debate this - if you think that he and Hancock haven't from the word go described the plan as irreversible then that's what you've heard. Yes - they've subsequently created some wriggle room around the word...but we all know that this plan is not irreversible and that it makes no sense to describe something as hopefully being irreversible - public expectations and all that. Something is irreversible or it isn't. But you heard what you heard. I heard what I heard and this is what I heard.

"So we have got to be very prudent and what we want to see is progress that is cautious but irreversible. I think that is what the public, people up and down the country, want to see."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56068362

Anyway, hopefully we never have to engage reverse gear. And hopefully I haven't drifted into politics - though in context I should express my support for the PM in his lockdown extension contingency.
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You're not going to debate it, but then follows fourteen lines of your argument!
And, on your own quote, ..." what we want to see " ... is not saying "what we will see"
Maybe it is your English?
 
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I think it’s safe to say that foreign holidays off the table which hopefully will give the UK Tourist Industry a bit of a boost
 
pauldj42 said:
Surely the German Government could of taken steps to prevent travel, I understand it’s a very, very dificult time for those around Europe whose livelihoods depend on tourism, but surely they’ll be returning to Germany sometime.
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Not quite sure what the German regs are at present, or over Easter. But as part of Schengen they are allowed to travel around Europe providing they satisfy the 'local' requirements for entry. Here in Spain its proof of the right to reside, Residencia. The Balearics, over Easter, is part of a pilot scheme the Spanish have agreed with Germany. Crazily, the Germans can travel but the Spanish can't, and that's what is causing the majority of the grief. The Spanish want to travel too but its specifically banned over Easter.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
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I think it’s safe to say that foreign holidays off the table which hopefully will give the UK Tourist Industry a bit of a boost
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We're very much coming off a wave, way down than a few weeks back, but it's at a will it won't it go back up - we're seeing a small ripple.

EDIT: lowest number in the village(pop 3700) since the 3rd week of Jan. 32, down 7 since yesterday.
 
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Just out of interest, it’s being discussed there may be a third wave in this country coz the EU have said there having one. if we are in lockdown as a country that no one is coming in or out. How do we get a third wave. That way it affects no one.
 
Tashyboy said:
Just out of interest, it’s being discussed there may be a third wave in this country coz the EU have said there having one. if we are in lockdown as a country that no one is coming in or out. How do we get a third wave. That way it affects no one.
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Because its already here and just takes a bit of time to build up. Will be damped a bit by the higher vaccination rates though.
 
Tashyboy said:
Just out of interest, it’s being discussed there may be a third wave in this country coz the EU have said there having one. if we are in lockdown as a country that no one is coming in or out. How do we get a third wave. That way it affects no one.
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We aren’t stopping flights/freight, even the odd illegal immigrant, yes there are checks, but come on Tash, you genuinely think our borders are sealed?
I’m gobsmacked LPool had to play Leipzig in a nuetral country due to the restrictions and people had to miss funerals due the restrictions, but thousands can just go to Spain. Not sure the Germans know what they’re doing.
 
Tashyboy said:
Nope, but that me point, they should be. ?
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Do you honestly think this country would continue to operate for very long if we completely sealed the borders?

We'd descend into chaos in less than a week.
 
pauldj42 said:
They can’t be though Tash, we need to import and export food etc, but people can wait for holidays!
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This....

I'm not too sure that this "wave" is too worrying. Surely it has been born of comparative non lockdown ,together with not too much (enough) vaccination on the continent.
Here however, we have been reaping the rewards of lockdown ( with one or two horrendous non compliance incidents) and our vaccination efforts have been outstanding.
If the vaccinations work as we are told they do, we shouldn't be anything like in as bad a situation as we have been before.?
 
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