Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[Deleted member 21784]

That’s impossible though, simply stating you can’t go on a foreign holiday won’t stop people going.

Here’s the list as of yesterday from around the World of were is open and you can to to now.

https://www.wanderlust.co.uk/conten...ESAAA.YAAAAAAAAAAA.1.QjY0v9UMqYSBhGAhdjRltA==

Only thing I'll add say the Uk is fully done

Kids won't be? Our little snot bags could start a 3rd wave

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Which leads to even more companies going under and the associated job losses, completely unnecessarily

Im sure they would rather more customers to sell to next year ?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Only thing I'll add say the Uk is fully done

Kids won't be? Our little snot bags could start a 3rd wave

And without sounding “jack” that’s still down to other Countries to decide who comes in.

 

[SaintHacker]

Im sure they would rather more customers to sell to next year ?

Doesnt matter how many customers they have if they're already out of business...

 

[Deleted member 3432]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1361707673943736323

The lowest level of new cases on a Tuesday since September

Level of deaths down 24% from last Tuesday

You make it sound so wonderful.....

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Doesnt matter how many customers they have if they're already out of business...

But what does it say about us as a nation that we can go through a year of mess .. made worse by international travel and big gatherings .. when people have lost jobs and have less money

Yet the first thing we want to do is spend money to go on holiday and gather down the pub in confined numbers

Isn't insanity trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results?

 

[hovis]

Only thing I'll add say the Uk is fully done

Kids won't be? Our little snot bags could start a 3rd wave

Who are the kids going to spread it to if we're all vacinated?

 

[Ethan]

I think that this is where there is going to be the problem. Countries may, quite rightly, want vaccine certification but I suspect that a significant majority of people with families are not going to fall into the over 50 category and so family holidays may well be off the cards this year. Then there is the question of children. They may not get a serious illness with covid but I am sure that they can spread it and they will not be getting vaccinated for quite a while, if at all. Does that mean kids cannot travel. This could open up a while new can of worms.

None of the vaccines are currently approved for use in children, although trials are ongoing. It appears that with regard to transmissibility, teenagers behave like young adults but younger children are less of a transmission risk. None of the kids in Spain or Portugal will be vacc'd either. I could se a scenario where kids are exempted, but I don't see how young adults can be likewise exempted.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Who are the kids going to spread it to if we're all vacinated?

The UK may have been done but everywhere we travel won't be fully done

So we can take out some locals whilst we soak up the sun

 

[Ethan]

But what does it say about us as a nation that we can go through a year of mess .. made worse by international travel and big gatherings .. when people have lost jobs and have less money

Yet the first thing we want to do is spend money to go on holiday and gather down the pub in confined numbers

Isn't insanity trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results?

I think that is a little harsh. It is a natural human behaviour to want to return to normality and the annual holiday is a highlight for many. I wouldn't be critical of people who want to go on holiday when allowed to do so, but I would be very critical of those who go even when advised not to (but not prevented).

 

[hovis]

The UK may have been done but everywhere we travel won't be fully done

So we can take out some locals whilst we soak up the sun

So you're going to sit at home and refrain from going abroad until you hear that Pedro and his family have had the vacine?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You make it sound so wonderful.....

Do i ?

Or is just showing that things are improving and trying to be more positive in the face of the constant negativity that gets published on a daily basis.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I think that is a little harsh. It is a natural human behaviour to want to return to normality and the annual holiday is a highlight for many. I wouldn't be critical of people who want to go on holiday when allowed to do so, but I would be very critical of those who go even when advised not to (but not prevented).

I just think the whole world needs a shake up

Maybe it's the bill gates mind control chip working it's way through me but climate change is the next biggest issue with got after covid and all we care about is jetting off

Plus surely the UK itself could use with a boost so holiday internally for a year

 

[azazel]

So you're going to sit at home and refrain from going abroad until you hear that Pedro and his family have had the vacine?

If you've any consideration for others - whether their name is Pedro, Pierre or just plan Peter - then that's exactly what you should do.

 

[hovis]

I just think the whole world needs a shake up

Maybe it's the bill gates mind control chip working it's way through me but climate change is the next biggest issue with got after covid and all we care about is jetting off

Plus surely the UK itself could use with a boost so holiday internally for a year

Prices have gone up by 300% according to a previous post. Also, there's 66 million of us.

 

[SaintHacker]

The UK may have been done but everywhere we travel won't be fully done

So we can take out some locals whilst we soak up the sun

And if its proven, as looks likely, that the vacc prevents transmission as well as contraction?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

And if its proven, as looks likely, that the vacc prevents transmission as well as contraction?

It's also proven so far isn't it that the vaccine isn't as effective against the new strains? So what then

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Prices have gone up by 300% according to a previous post. Also, there's 66 million of us.

How many of those 66 go away anyways?

 

[hovis]

If you've any consideration for others - whether their name is Pedro, Pierre or just plan Peter - then that's exactly what you should do.

It isn't up to me to consider Pedro the waiter when contemplating my holiday. I leave that responsibility upto the countries politicians and scientists. If they allow it then thats fine by me. At some point you have to take your arm bands off and jump in because covid is never going away. If you're going to wait until a foreign government anounce they have vacinated 100% of their residents then you are never going abroad.

 

[GB72]

None of the vaccines are currently approved for use in children, although trials are ongoing. It appears that with regard to transmissibility, teenagers behave like young adults but younger children are less of a transmission risk. None of the kids in Spain or Portugal will be vacc'd either. I could se a scenario where kids are exempted, but I don't see how young adults can be likewise exempted.

That is interesting. Will be interesting to see how this pans out as, for example, my brother is under 50 with a 16 year old son. Neither of them will see a vaccine for a while and so will they be confined to the UK or to countries that do not impose a vaccine requirement. Guessing some countries may follow the current 'standard' which appears to be clear test at least 72 hours before departure and a clear test to return (certainly in my location of choice, Antigua, they are doing return tests on the resorts).