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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

ger147 said:
The whole issue of vaccine passports/certificates, whether they will be required and whether foreign travel will be allowed off the back of it etc. is something largely beyond the control of the UK government. What Spain, Portugal, Italy etc. decide to implement re. whether they allow foreign visitors or not, from which countries, if evidence of a vaccine is required etc. is a matter for those countries to decide for themselves. If they decide to only allow UK visitors who can provide evidence of a Covid-19 vaccine, I'm not sure what a protest march to Trafalgar Square would achieve.
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The element of control that we have is whether non essential foreign travel is permitted. If you allow foreign travel then you have potentially created the 2 tier system between those vaccinated and those not. Do you allow foreign travel with the potentially increased risk and the uproar it will cause for those not having been vaccinated but potentially save much of the travel and airline industry or to you keep the country locked down internally, avoid the uproar and promote spending at UK businesses. Not an easy call but I would go for the latter.
 
road2ruin said:
For me there is a difference between an international vaccine passport and a national one. An international one is almost certain to be needed as other countries will demand it, I don't think anyone is arguing against that. The ill feeling will be if suddenly bars/pubs etc are opened up to those with one whilst those who cannot get one are told they cannot enter. That is where the problems will start.
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A passport to get into Wetherspoons? There are a million reasons for me not to go near a Wetherspoons, not having a Covid-19 vaccine isn't in the top 100...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
GB72 said:
The element of control that we have is whether non essential foreign travel is permitted. If you allow foreign travel then you have potentially created the 2 tier system between those vaccinated and those not. Do you allow foreign travel with the potentially increased risk and the uproar it will cause for those not having been vaccinated but potentially save much of the travel and airline industry or to you keep the country locked down internally, avoid the uproar and promote spending at UK businesses. Not an easy call but I would go for the latter.
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There isn't a cat in hell's chance of the UK border being locked down until the whole UK population is vaccinated, IMO of course. Other opinions are available...
 
Does it not make sense to allow the oldies to go on holiday once they're vaccinated which would then leave holidays later in the year for the younger age groups once they've been done? Otherwise there will be an announcement that foreign holidays will be allowed from XX date and everyone will be trying to book the same few weeks and prices will rocket.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Does it not make sense to allow the oldies to go on holiday once they're vaccinated which would then leave holidays later in the year for the younger age groups once they've been done? Otherwise there will be an announcement that foreign holidays will be allowed from XX date and everyone will be trying to book the same few weeks and prices will rocket.
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As previously mentioned, I don’t think it matters what the UK says, regardless of vaccine or not, it’ll be down to the receiving Country imo.
 
pauldj42 said:
As previously mentioned, I don’t think it matters what the UK says, regardless of vaccine or not, it’ll be down to the receiving Country imo.
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I appreciate that but some are suggesting that our borders remain closed until everyone has been vaccinated and has an equal right to go on holiday.
 
Latest update in Scotland is limited school return to go ahead starting on Monday 22nd Feb as planned.

No other restrictions being lifted for now and holidays got a mention, the advice being not to book any foreign or UK holidays for Easter as highly likely they will not be allowed by then.
 
This could easily have gone into random irritations but it is heartbreaking.

2 guys one from Liverpool the other from Leicester came to Kirkstone pass in The Lake District last week to camp overnight. They got into difficulties and Patterdale Mountain Rescue were called out. An experienced rescuer fell 500 feet whilst carrying out his rescue. The 2 guys were fined £200 each.

The rescuer has damaged his spinal cord and is unlikely to ever walk again. A fund has been set up to support him.

Words fail me
 
3offTheTee said:
This could easily have gone into random irritations but it is heartbreaking.

2 guys one from Liverpool the other from Leicester came to Kirkstone pass in The Lake District last week to camp overnight. They got into difficulties and Patterdale Mountain Rescue were called out. An experienced rescuer fell 500 feet whilst carrying out his rescue. The 2 guys were fined £200 each.

The rescuer has damaged his spinal cord and is unlikely to ever walk again. A fund has been set up to support him.

Words fail me
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In these cases they should foot the cost of the rescue.
And like most things in life now ( even golf) .
Any pass time where you may have to be rescued you should be insured.
Especially going up mountains.
 
ColchesterFC said:
I appreciate that but some are suggesting that our borders remain closed until everyone has been vaccinated and has an equal right to go on holiday.
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That’s impractical though, how would someone know if an individual is going on holiday or travelling for work if they’ve booked a flight or they drive a car on a ferry etc, way, way too many loopholes for that to be possible, we’ve already got more holes than a sieve.;)
 
ColchesterFC said:
Does it not make sense to allow the oldies to go on holiday once they're vaccinated which would then leave holidays later in the year for the younger age groups once they've been done? Otherwise there will be an announcement that foreign holidays will be allowed from XX date and everyone will be trying to book the same few weeks and prices will rocket.
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A good idea - can also make up for any shortfall in inane daily metrics...
  • 72% of people aged 65-74 years have been on their holidays (exceeding the initial target )
  • ...Of these, most (53%) went to Benidorm while the Algarve (23%) and Tenerife (8%) also exceeded expected numbers of UK personal ambassadors
 
3offTheTee said:
This could easily have gone into random irritations but it is heartbreaking.

2 guys one from Liverpool the other from Leicester came to Kirkstone pass in The Lake District last week to camp overnight. They got into difficulties and Patterdale Mountain Rescue were called out. An experienced rescuer fell 500 feet whilst carrying out his rescue. The 2 guys were fined £200 each.

The rescuer has damaged his spinal cord and is unlikely to ever walk again. A fund has been set up to support him.

Words fail me
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They should have got 6 months in jail, not a £200 fine.
 
"But as a payoff for the schools going back, she warned today that foreign holidays are probably ruled out this year. "

Well said Nicola

I hope we follow Monday
 
pauljames87 said:
"But as a payoff for the schools going back, she warned today that foreign holidays are probably ruled out this year. "

Well said Nicola

I hope we follow Monday
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I do wish our esteemed leaders would grow up, pit their differences aside and agree to agree about uk wide restrictions.
To say holidays are out this year is a ridiculous statement given the vaccine roll out etc. If englend say its ok to go abroad (and as has been pointed out it will be more down to the receiving country) then whats to stop any Scots who have been jabbed travelling down to Newcastle and flying from there?

Mod note: this post is about holiday restrictions, not politics. Oops, sorry, mentioned the p word by accident...
 
SaintHacker said:
I do wish our esteemed leaders would grow up, pit their differences aside and agree to agree about uk wide restrictions.
To say holidays are out this year is a ridiculous statement given the vaccine roll out etc. If englend say its ok to go abroad (and as has been pointed out it will be more down to the receiving country) then whats to stop any Scots who have been jabbed travelling down to Newcastle and flying from there?

Mod note: this post is about holiday restrictions, not politics. Oops, sorry, mentioned the p word by accident...
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UK vaccinated not the world

Foreign holidays need banning in 2021
 
My kids are desperate to go away on holiday, we didn't go away anywhere last summer and I think this summer looks dodgy too. The Govt is clearly being a bit more cautious now, but at some point, maybe when the the 50y+ are all vacc'd they will probably say something more emollient to partly satisfy the holiday operators, and there will be a crush and massive price rise for the limited availability. But by that time, I expect most of the typical destinations will have vacc certification procedures in place for inbound.
 
Ethan said:
My kids are desperate to go away on holiday, we didn't go away anywhere last summer and I think this summer looks dodgy too. The Govt is clearly being a bit more cautious now, but at some point, maybe when the the 50y+ are all vacc'd they will probably say something more emollient to partly satisfy the holiday operators, and there will be a crush and massive price rise for the limited availability. But by that time, I expect most of the typical destinations will have vacc certification procedures in place for inbound.
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I think that this is where there is going to be the problem. Countries may, quite rightly, want vaccine certification but I suspect that a significant majority of people with families are not going to fall into the over 50 category and so family holidays may well be off the cards this year. Then there is the question of children. They may not get a serious illness with covid but I am sure that they can spread it and they will not be getting vaccinated for quite a while, if at all. Does that mean kids cannot travel. This could open up a while new can of worms.
 
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