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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Hobbit said:
You might have 50-60 years of holidays to come your way. Someone who is 65 will have a whole lot less. Begrudging them a few decent holidays whilst they're still fit enough seems awfully... petulant?
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Tbh I don't begrudge them a holiday because of their age. I am strongly against anyone taking a holiday this year abroad

Id like to see unessential international travel banned even after lockdown until more of the world is vaccinated

Rather than just start moving people round again which is how the whole thing started.
 
Hobbit said:
You might have 50-60 years of holidays to come your way. Someone who is 65 will have a whole lot less. Begrudging them a few decent holidays whilst they're still fit enough seems awfully... petulant?
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Someone who is 65yrs will have had a shed load of holidays so could they not just stay home for a year until we can all go away. It can work both ways.
 
road2ruin said:
I'm not sure that'd go down well, for most they just want a bit of socialisation with people and so telling them that they're in Tier 3 until May really doesn't change their lives much from being in lockdown now.
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I have to agree with that. Having been in tier 3 and above since the end of October, it does make very little difference for most people. Even with better weather, the restriction on meeting outside having to be in public rather than in the garden limits what people can do and golf and gyms really do not impact on a massive number of people (OK I will be happy to have the gym back). Until people can meet others on their own property (outside to start with) we are still in lockdown.
 
pauljames87 said:
Tbh I don't begrudge them a holiday because of their age. I am strongly against anyone taking a holiday this year abroad

Id like to see unessential international travel banned even after lockdown until more of the world is vaccinated

Rather than just start moving people round again which is how the whole thing started.
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I agree, I don't think there should really be an argument about who should/shouldn't be allowed to travel. Given the situation and the threat of a mutation which could put us back to square one, I see international travel as being only a necessity for the rest of this year.
 
pauljames87 said:
Tbh I don't begrudge them a holiday because of their age. I am strongly against anyone taking a holiday this year abroad

Id like to see unessential international travel banned even after lockdown until more of the world is vaccinated

Rather than just start moving people round again which is how the whole thing started.
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Again, another view I agree with. As many have stated on here, the idea is to protect everyone. Furthermore, the dangers of long covid have been quite rightly mentioned a great deal on here. As such, until it is clear about the full impact of vaccination on transmission (and that is without considering new strains) it is for the older generation to help protect the younger generation by not travelling.
 
Leftitshort said:
Any info on the threat of long COVID, in younger patients? I hear it spoken about, there is some anecdotal info but nothing specific. Speaking as someone whose had it. albeit a mild version, luckily I didn’t get the South African super version.
I don’t mean to belittle long COVID but is there enough proof it exists in enough cases to justify general measures?
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You can either believe that long Covid doesn't affect young people until there's proof to show it does,
Or
You can believe that long Covid does affect young people untill there's proof to show it doesn't.
I know which way I'd go
 
GB72 said:
Again, another view I agree with. As many have stated on here, the idea is to protect everyone. Furthermore, the dangers of long covid have been quite rightly mentioned a great deal on here. As such, until it is clear about the full impact of vaccination on transmission (and that is without considering new strains) it is for the older generation to help protect the younger generation by not travelling.
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It's amazing different people's attuide to it. Someone I know is due the jab because he a carer. He said once he done to hell with the mask and restrictions

I'm opposite end. I had my jab at the weekend. Once I'm fully vaccinated I will still be social distancing and wearing my mask

If anything it's a great excuse to be anti social ?
 
bobmac said:
You can either believe that long Covid doesn't affect young people until there's proof to show it does,
Or
You can believe that long Covid does affect young people untill there's proof to show it doesn't.
I know which way I'd go
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You could say that about anything though. Didn’t think you believed in faith. I’m not denying it’s existence, just it’s prevalence.
 
Leftitshort said:
Any info on the threat of long COVID, in younger patients? I hear it spoken about, there is some anecdotal info but nothing specific. Speaking as someone whose had it. albeit a mild version, luckily I didn’t get the South African super version.
I don’t mean to belittle long COVID but is there enough proof it exists in enough cases to justify general measures?
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The only person I know with long covid is 27 and ex military. Was fit as a fiddle

Not so much now
 
Leftitshort said:
Any info on the threat of long COVID, in younger patients? I hear it spoken about, there is some anecdotal info but nothing specific. Speaking as someone whose had it. albeit a mild version, luckily I didn’t get the South African super version.
I don’t mean to belittle long COVID but is there enough proof it exists in enough cases to justify general measures?
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It definitely exists, and many of the people that have it have objective evidence of damage caused. Long Covid occurs in younger people as well as older. Post-viral phenomena are well recognised, with some vague but troubling features. Fatigue and mood and cognitive changes are common, but damage to kidneys, liver, heart and vasculature also occur with Covid. It is certainly reason enough for younger people to be vaccinated, in my opinion.
 
Whilst the affects of long Covid will be looked into as we go through the months I don’t believe it is that data they are looking at in regards the relaxation of restrictions- listening to the report this morning it’s based mainly on

Vaccine data
Deaths
Cases
Hospital admissions

Currently those four main areas are all moving in the right direction for restrictions to be relaxed

But social distancing measures will Imo be in place for the foreseeable future and maybe into next year

As for Holidays

People will need to get away and relax - but I don’t believe it should be foreign holidays - UK only for us all until next year

People don’t need to go abroad for a holiday to relax

There is nothing annoying right now than someone complaining that they are having to quarantine for 10 days when they come back from Dubai etc - tough you shouldn’t have taken the risk to go for a jolly in the sun during a world wide pandemic
 
bobmac said:
You can either believe that long Covid doesn't affect young people until there's proof to show it does,
Or
You can believe that long Covid does affect young people untill there's proof to show it doesn't.
I know which way I'd go
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Playing Devil's Advocate, we only hear about the worst cases of long Covid, it is still going to be a tiny minority of those who have caught Covid (knowingly or not) and have no ill affects.
 
pauljames87 said:
It's amazing different people's attuide to it. Someone I know is due the jab because he a carer. He said once he done to hell with the mask and restrictions

I'm opposite end. I had my jab at the weekend. Once I'm fully vaccinated I will still be social distancing and wearing my mask

If anything it's a great excuse to be anti social ?
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It is an odd one. I have friends who have been vaccinated who now thing the rules don't apply, I have friends who still follow the rules but find it more frustrating as they see themselves as safe now and I have friends who are still very much in favour of us all coming out of this together. All I know is that I am not going to see a jab for a while, I am overweight so it could hit me hard if I did get it and so I am going to be playing Hide and Seek with Covid for a while yet.
 
pauljames87 said:
The only person I know with long covid is 27 and ex military. Was fit as a fiddle

Not so much now
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Yep. Again not denying its existence. I’m sure in some cases it’s really unpleasant. It’s a dangerous precedent to lockdown on a maybe!! You’d be better off banning smoking & drinking if long term health was a governmental consideration
 
Ethan said:
It definitely exists, and many of the people that have it have objective evidence of damage caused. Long Covid occurs in younger people as well as older. Post-viral phenomena are well recognised, with some vague but troubling features. Fatigue and mood and cognitive changes are common, but damage to kidneys, liver, heart and vasculature also occur with Covid. It is certainly reason enough for younger people to be vaccinated, in my opinion.
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My mood has definitely changed, I’m a proper grumpy bugger now. Long COVID or middle age?
 
DanFST said:
I edited the above post. No agenda with the data boundaries. It's just nothing is standardised! I do think the Gov website using 18-64 is disingenuous however.

So i'm already screwed then! Uplifting morning. :ROFLMAO:
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No, you aren't screwed. But I think that the public needs a more nuanced view of the harm of the virus. It started off as killing old crumblies in nursing homes, but as time has gone on, we have seen more effects in younger people and some of those who have appeared to recover. A prudent approach would be to treat this thing as being very harmful and focus on getting as many people as possible through unharmed.

It is likely that there will be waves of Covid over the next few years, but as well as immunity to vaccinated strains, we will gradually acquire a broader immunity to new versions, and reach an equilibrium a bit like flu where most people are not really affected any more, and only really the older age groups and those with certain predispositions are vulnerable. Those people will need annual vaccinations and most younger people probably won't.
 
ColchesterFC said:
And the fact that people are flying in from Brazil via Madrid. A couple interviewed yesterday said that they flew from Brazil to Madrid and sat next to people in the airport, queued up with them etc and then flew in to Heathrow. At Heathrow they were separated and taken to the hotel. Again a massive risk of cross contamination.
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Chuck into the mix the totally expected situation when there is the difference between Scotland and England in the quarantining policy - with flight yesterday from Istanbul to Edinburgh. 50-60 on the flight - until they discovered that they'd have to go into hotel quarantine when they got to Scotland - and the flight left with half doz. on board. I guess it doesn't take a genius to work out that most reckoned that they'd rather just dump the Edinburgh flight; get one into an airport in England - then train/bus or hire a car to drive from England to Edinburgh.
 
GB72 said:
It is an odd one. I have friends who have been vaccinated who now thing the rules don't apply, I have friends who still follow the rules but find it more frustrating as they see themselves as safe now and I have friends who are still very much in favour of us all coming out of this together. All I know is that I am not going to see a jab for a while, I am overweight so it could hit me hard if I did get it and so I am going to be playing Hide and Seek with Covid for a while yet.
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My nan has had both jabs (both her and grandad) soon as they were done they said we can see you now

I'm like no nan

My dad is due for jab Thursday

I joked on the family whatapp that me and him can go down the harvester whilst mum and my sister can wait at home .. (they not been called) he said "go out? Not a chance" lol not even joking

It will take me a while to even want to get back to " normal"
 
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