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Crow said:
I understood that the pubs make more margin on soft drinks and food than they do on alcoholic beverages anyway.
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They do by a considerable amount. But soft drinks account for a very small percentage of their sales. I'd rather make 40% on a 1000 pints of beer than 80% on a 100 glasses of Pepsi
 
hovis said:
They do by a considerable amount. But soft drinks account for a very small percentage of their sales. I'd rather make 40% on a 1000 pints of beer than 80% on a 100 glasses of Pepsi
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Unfortunately, it seems to me the only choice will be 80% on 100 glasses of soft drinks or not opening.
 
Traminator said:
But people won't bother going.
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Won't they? I get your point that people mainly go for booze, but for a change of scenery, a meal out & potentially a bit of social interaction with someone other than the wife I'd be quite happy to go.

I'd probably rather go then than when pubs first open properly, as the amount of people who will trying to make up for lost time will likely not make it an overly pleasurable experience.
 
“IF” it’s true and I suspect it’s not but there will be many establishments that will open up for food , there are lots of “bistro” pubs now that offer meals - looking at my local area there are more “pubs” that people go to for a meal as opposed to a drink

So if they say pubs can open but only serve soft drinks then there will be a lot that open

But I can’t see them saying that a pub can open but no alcohol and even more so when you see what they suggest is the reason “ people don’t follow social distancing when drinking alcohol”

When pubs are allowed to open a lot of the social distancing rules will be relaxed
 
Problem with them letting pubs open just soft drinks is those who don't see it is viable to open does it then mean they don't get any more help? Washing hands of the help?
 
Believe many in hospitality are fearing their 'industry' could go the same as High St retail if they don't get folk back into their premises sooner rather than later... Was already struggling pre-covid...
 
pauljames87 said:
Problem with them letting pubs open just soft drinks is those who don't see it is viable to open does it then mean they don't get any more help? Washing hands of the help?
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Pubs opening just for soft drinks?...everyone will just have a half bottle of vodka in their bag. Seen plenty of young ladies doing this on a Friday night anyway, so if there is no booze being sold can see this escalating!
 
The first of my Lockdown3 tests has been cancelled and rescheduled to late August - 18 weeks away.
Beginning to get a handle on the numbers...
They're cancelling a week before the date and moving them on to the end of the queue.
In essence, they run a 18 week book at the moment so all the tests that get cancelled between now and the restart of tests will get moved on 18 weeks as well.
What it doesn't seem to take into account is the multitude of kids who would normally book tests between Jan and freedom and that number is going to be 35000+ if we start back early March and I think that's a long shot. 3500 a week on average.
And when booking for thos kids does open there will be 35k plus an extra 3.5k every week trying to get tests.
They are trying to train more examiners but that takes time in the car as well as the classroom so that can't happen yet.
Even with all hands on deck, extra tests each day - not always feasible depending on traffic - you could fill test slots to the end of the year and beyond.
A thoroughly depressing conclusion- someone starting driving when lockdown finishes won't be ab,e to take a test for a year...
 
road2ruin said:
My experience of pubs opening in the summer was that the felt safer than most supermarkets and other shops. Everything was table service and you could only get up for the toilet. The only thing that ever made me feel unsafe in the sense of the virus was the ridiculous 10pm curfew that simply resulted in the entire pub being turfed out onto the street at exactly the same time. Stick to the usual closing times and there is a gradual decline in drinkers throughout the evening. Obviously there are going to be the pubs that don’t stick to the rules however I’m fairly sure these were few and far between.

Personally I won’t be going to the pub to pay the same price for a pint of Coke, I can’t see many pubs opening and those who do, will they get enough business through the door to make it worthwhile? I don’t actually think this will happen, it’s frankly one of the stupidest ideas I’ve heard but who knows.
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Really that is stupid, no one goes to a Supermarket for 4 hours and sits near to other people for 4 hours while drinking. You go to the shops or supermarket and spend minimal time near other people, get your stuff and get out. Anywhere indoors where you spend a significant amount of time near the same people is much riskier.

I totally get the idea of going to a pub to meet up with friends and people really miss it but justifying it with it feels safe than x,y or z is rubbish and works against what is needed. lets look at what is more risky and work out how we can make it work not pretend it is something it is not.
 
Reemul said:
Really that is stupid, no one goes to a Supermarket for 4 hours and sits near to other people for 4 hours while drinking. You go to the shops or supermarket and spend minimal time near other people, get your stuff and get out. Anywhere indoors where you spend a significant amount of time near the same people is much riskier.

I totally get the idea of going to a pub to meet up with friends and people really miss it but justifying it with it feels safe than x,y or z is rubbish and works against what is needed. lets look at what is more risky and work out how we can make it work not pretend it is something it is not.
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Public Health England would probably disagree, from November the figures below suggest that the rates of transmission in a supermarket were far higher than a bar/pub.

Proportion of all common locations reported in PHE data:
  • Supermarket - 18.3%
  • Secondary school - 12.7%
  • Primary school - 10.1%
  • Hospital - 3.6%
  • Care home - 2.8%
  • College - 2.4%
  • Warehouse - 2.2%
  • Nursery preschool - 1.8%
  • Pub or bar - 1.6%
  • Hospitality - 1.5%
  • University - 1.4%
  • Manufacture engineering - 1.4%
  • Household fewer than five - 1.2%
  • General practice - 1.1%
  • Gym - 1.1%
  • Restaurant or cafe - 1.0%
 
road2ruin said:
Public Health England would probably disagree, from November the figures below suggest that the rates of transmission in a supermarket were far higher than a bar/pub.

Proportion of all common locations reported in PHE data:
  • Supermarket - 18.3%
  • Secondary school - 12.7%
  • Primary school - 10.1%
  • Hospital - 3.6%
  • Care home - 2.8%
  • College - 2.4%
  • Warehouse - 2.2%
  • Nursery preschool - 1.8%
  • Pub or bar - 1.6%
  • Hospitality - 1.5%
  • University - 1.4%
  • Manufacture engineering - 1.4%
  • Household fewer than five - 1.2%
  • General practice - 1.1%
  • Gym - 1.1%
  • Restaurant or cafe - 1.0%
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Not really... The volume of people involved ... Ofc supermarket going to be too.. almost everyone goes to them
 
road2ruin said:
Public Health England would probably disagree, from November the figures below suggest that the rates of transmission in a supermarket were far higher than a bar/pub.

Proportion of all common locations reported in PHE data:
  • Supermarket - 18.3%
  • Secondary school - 12.7%
  • Primary school - 10.1%
  • Hospital - 3.6%
  • Care home - 2.8%
  • College - 2.4%
  • Warehouse - 2.2%
  • Nursery preschool - 1.8%
  • Pub or bar - 1.6%
  • Hospitality - 1.5%
  • University - 1.4%
  • Manufacture engineering - 1.4%
  • Household fewer than five - 1.2%
  • General practice - 1.1%
  • Gym - 1.1%
  • Restaurant or cafe - 1.0%
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Locations of what?
That is a statistic which is probably nothing to do with your argument.
It is now widely believed that this virus is spread more by aerosol than any other method.
Breathing in each other's air.
and that happens when you are indoors in the same company for some time where the same air is circulating and not refreshed sufficiently.
Now, that is the definition of a pub, cafe, cinema, etc.
No wishful thinking on your part , or anyone else's,is going to change that level of risk.
 
road2ruin said:
Public Health England would probably disagree, from November the figures below suggest that the rates of transmission in a supermarket were far higher than a bar/pub.

Proportion of all common locations reported in PHE data:
  • Supermarket - 18.3%
  • Secondary school - 12.7%
  • Primary school - 10.1%
  • Hospital - 3.6%
  • Care home - 2.8%
  • College - 2.4%
  • Warehouse - 2.2%
  • Nursery preschool - 1.8%
  • Pub or bar - 1.6%
  • Hospitality - 1.5%
  • University - 1.4%
  • Manufacture engineering - 1.4%
  • Household fewer than five - 1.2%
  • General practice - 1.1%
  • Gym - 1.1%
  • Restaurant or cafe - 1.0%
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I'm not sure how you can compare those locations using that statistic as whilst supermarkets have been open continuously, schools and pubs haven't.

Common locations reported does not necessarily equate to transmission, and the type of interaction in schools & the supermarket will be completely different.

Add the primary & secondary schools together and that's 22.8%. Factor in the amount of households that will have children in both primary & secondary education and it seems fairly obvious where the biggest transmission risk lies.
 
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