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Blue in Munich said:
Sorry, why; did the club instruct the player to get it cut? I've got no problem with the Premier League (or any league come to that, but the Premier League seems to have a higher percentage of halfwits) issuing an edict that any player caught doing this will be suspended for 5 games or whatever, and the club being entitled to withhold wages for the period the player is suspended, but actually sanctioning the club for something that they cannot directly control short of actually locking them up is a bit off for me.
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Yes, completely agree.
I've seen this attitude come in over the years.
It's all part of society " punishing " those they feel they can locate or who have the funds.
It seems to me that it's a case of "Make out they have a responsibility, so we can be seen to be doing something"
Yobs at a football match create havoc , and the Club is "fined" for not controlling them?.
Anyone here think the Club wants, incites or encourages such behaviour?
It's akin to a cinema owner being " fined" for failing to control his patrons, if some of them are yobs who run riot in there? Would that be right?
 
Ethan said:
There have been a number of first hand reports of people in the UK with cancer showing improvement after Covid vaccine. This is thought to be due to the immune system being activated and cleaning up various intruders it spots. These include an older woman who had a number of skin cancers for some months. GP examined her yesterday, lesions gone. Checked record, got vaccine about 3 weeks ago. A younger patient with lymphoma, similar effect, lymphoma significantly reduced. The immune system is powerful when it gets going.

One of the evolving techniques for cancer treatment is a technology called CAR-T. This basically involves taking a sample of the tumour, identifying a target on it and then programming your T-cells to go get it. Can be very successful and curative in some.

Cancer Research UK
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Any particular cancers Ethan?
 
chrisd said:
Any particular cancers Ethan?
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CAR-Ts have focussed on blood cancers so far (lymphomas, leukaemias and myeloma), partly because they are more accessible compared to solid tumours but also because the antigens used to light up the blood caners tend to be expressed more exclusively on malignant cells and not on normal tissues, so a lot of the work on solid tumours immunotherapy is in identifying antigens, or ways to select antigens on the right cells, to target.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Yes, completely agree.
I've seen this attitude come in over the years.
It's all part of society " punishing " those they feel they can locate or who have the funds.
It seems to me that it's a case of "Make out they have a responsibility, so we can be seen to be doing something"
Yobs at a football match create havoc , and the Club is "fined" for not controlling them?.
Anyone here think the Club wants, incites or encourages such behaviour?
It's akin to a cinema owner being " fined" for failing to control his patrons, if some of them are yobs who run riot in there? Would that be right?
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Disagree on that to a certain extent. Agree what you say about yobs etc but players are employees and companies have a responsibility for them. An example would be that a company can put in place a health and safety policy but be liable if they do not make sure employees follow it
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Yes, completely agree.
I've seen this attitude come in over the years.
It's all part of society " punishing " those they feel they can locate or who have the funds.
It seems to me that it's a case of "Make out they have a responsibility, so we can be seen to be doing something"
Yobs at a football match create havoc , and the Club is "fined" for not controlling them?.
Anyone here think the Club wants, incites or encourages such behaviour?
It's akin to a cinema owner being " fined" for failing to control his patrons, if some of them are yobs who run riot in there? Would that be right?
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Or a bit like MP's suggesting sanctions against the Russian owner of a London football club because they don't like Putin's actions.
 
Went to my local Asda today. Masked up, gloves on, for a few essentials, that fit in one bag, self checkout etc.
There is a vaccine zone in the shop, prior appointments through the NHS, but a sensible place to do it, given that most GPs in Watford have very limited parking.
 
larmen said:
I guess if I would run a vaccination facility and have left overs I would check where I can quickly get enough people not to waste it. Where I got the jab on a Sunday evening there is a bus depot next to it, that would be my call. My GP practice where they vaccinate is directly opposite a nursery, I would call them because the school next door will be shut by the time the decision about left overs are made. I guess in Chesterfield the nearest bulk but organised assembly is the stadium.
The last thing I would want to do is calling people one by one, killing the vaccine by going slowly through a list. Call someone, ask to send 6 people, done. Possibly even prearrange that there might be a possibility.
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Sweet lord, common sense. ? Unfortunately Sharon and Darren on face book have yet to have the common sense vaccination coz it’s got a chip in it. ?
well said laramen me man.
 
GB72 said:
Disagree on that to a certain extent. Agree what you say about yobs etc but players are employees and companies have a responsibility for them. An example would be that a company can put in place a health and safety policy but be liable if they do not make sure employees follow it
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No they are not responsible for their behaviour outside the remit and terms and functions of their employment.
My employer was not responsible for my behaviour away from work.
If I had gone thieving or beating up people in pubs, or any other criminal activity when I wasn't working, then it wouldn't be right for society or my employers governing body to sanction/ fine or punish in any way my employer because of those actions of mine.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55935875

Why the wait ? I actually thought it was already starting but still just under 2 weeks away ? Cant understand the delay

I see Wales have followed Scotland by announcing schools will reopen after half time .
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A very limited re-opening in Scotland fromm 22 Feb. Pre-school and early primary. 5 - 8% of senior secondary in at any one time but only for the completion of practical work going towards qualifications. No actual teaching.
No word on full return, that could easily stretch out to the Easter break.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
No they are not responsible for their behaviour outside the remit and terms and functions of their employment.
My employer was not responsible for my behaviour away from work.
If I had gone thieving or beating up people in pubs, or any other criminal activity when I wasn't working, then it wouldn't be right for society or my employers governing body to sanction/ fine or punish in any way my employer because of those actions of mine.
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That I can see and appreciate and in most cases I agree that player sanctions are the way forward (though there has been little sign of that). Continued and multiple breaches however show a potential level of mismanagement of the situation that should require at least investigation into the club's covid prevention attitudes and policies.
 
Paperboy said:
My friend who is a teacher (Secondary), say's he can't see school's going back til after Easter. With some teachers stating they would want the Vaccine before going back to school.
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My wife is a teacher and she is in the vaccination group below me, but even as a 60-year guy myself, I hope she gets her jab before I do as I am very worried about the risk she is exposed to when she goes in.

Before this shutdown, at one point they had to send a lot of the children and staff home because many of the cleaning staff had become ill and so couldn't keep up with the protocols.
 
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Can anyone on here see how quarantine will work'
Looks like you can drive a 100 strong waggon train far less a horse and cart through the rules.

Mind you it will probably give a big boost to the ferry companies plying the Belfast to Stranraer route.
 
Ethan said:
No worries, the virus has presumably agreed to a ceasefire until Feb 15th so the Govt can get organised on their airport quarantines.
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Quarantine to start 15th Feb to give hotels time to prepare...well that's what I heard. I may have misheard.

Disclaimer - I make no personal comment or observation on what I have heard on that matter.
 
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