Ethan
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Over 1800 deaths reported yesterday![]()
Expected, though, with the lag between cases and deaths. Would expect art to come down from here very soon.
Over 1800 deaths reported yesterday![]()
But at least we got to have a merry Xmas ey!!!! ?Over 1800 deaths reported yesterday![]()
Todays update from our local hospital
Dr. Gardner said in today’s announcement, ‘We have got more Covid-positive patients this week than we had last week. The numbers are steadily rising. Some 130 patients are on general wards at the Vic, 20 are at the Clifton, while 19 are in intensive care beds at the Vic. The intensive care unit has doubled in size and now has 32 beds when they are usually 16.
Seriously ill patients are now being transferred to other hospitals. ‘Those transfers are used in order to make sure we have got capacity at every site across the county. Some seriously ill patients have been moved to hospitals in Preston or Blackburn, and vice versa, while some routine operations have also been axed as medics battle the coronavirus.’
But at least we got to have a merry Xmas ey!!!! ?
Open question for the folks working in the NHS and Italian outcast.
Ave been keeping in touch with friends in Italy. Alfredo ended up in intensive care for 6 weeks. He has now been moved to a non Covid hospital for his Physio. Bottom line, They have Hospitals that deal with Covid only. Other hospitals are dealing with non Covid injuries and illnesses. Would it of made a difference in the UK doing that or is our system not set up for that.
My MiL had a cancer related op last Friday in a designated covid free hospital. Whether that is happening across the country I don't know but it is up here.Open question for the folks working in the NHS and Italian outcast.
Ave been keeping in touch with friends in Italy. Alfredo ended up in intensive care for 6 weeks. He has now been moved to a non Covid hospital for his Physio. Bottom line, They have Hospitals that deal with Covid only. Other hospitals are dealing with non Covid injuries and illnesses. Would it of made a difference in the UK doing that or is our system not set up for that.
My MiL had a cancer related op last Friday in a designated covid free hospital. Whether that is happening across the country I don't know but it is up here.
I think we have some non covid hospitals in the UK. I am sure that my local hospital in Grantham was designated non covid
Yip had an op in Oct in Covid free hospital in Shrewsbury ??Open question for the folks working in the NHS and Italian outcast.
Ave been keeping in touch with friends in Italy. Alfredo ended up in intensive care for 6 weeks. He has now been moved to a non Covid hospital for his Physio. Bottom line, They have Hospitals that deal with Covid only. Other hospitals are dealing with non Covid injuries and illnesses. Would it of made a difference in the UK doing that or is our system not set up for that.
Reason I ask, Alfredo was in ICU, then was transferred to a breathing/ pulmonary ward. He was then after a week being transferred to a physio ward but had to have a Covid test. I asked why he never had one when being transferred to the pulmonary ward. Alfredo’s wife mentioned the pulmonary ward is in the Covid hospital. The physio one is not and they don’t want Covid in there.
Mirrors what I am seeing. We were forced to get rid of several ICU Covid patients to Oxford and plans to move several tonight as far as Milton Keynes as we have no ICU beds at all either in the hot covid zones or our cold (non-covid) zone. We have no capacity to move anywhere else and be functional/safe.
The trouble with what's presented in the media is that it depends on what "you" hear just as much as what "they" say. Your three lines could easily be reduced toThe below just a snippet why I find it harder and harder to care, or trust what media says.
From the BBC daily live reporting:
"The Covid-19 vaccine developed by Pfizer and BioNTech appears to protect against a coronavirus variant which is rapidly spreading across the UK.
The variant has mutations which it is feared may reduce the effectiveness of vaccines.
But a study, which has not yet been peer reviewed, has suggested this is not the case."
So it starts with concluding that there's a new variant of the virus that the vaccines, as far as we know it, will work on. But they have to chuck in scare curve ball, before again giving evidence which, although not peer reviewed, suggests that the new variant isn't to be more worried about.
Where this fear of the vaccine not being as effective comes from I do not know. I'm gonna hazard a guess it's from the journalist and the editor to keep the clicks coming.
The trouble with what's presented in the media is that it depends on what "you" hear just as much as what "they" say. Your three lines could easily be reduced to
There are new variants of the virus
Sone people think the vaccine wont be effective
They are wrong
Obviously the sensible media can't deal in absolutes unless there are actual absolutes to report. But the piece needs the "negative" middle sentence. If it just said "There are new variants. But the vaccine still works", everyone would be saying "Why are you telling us the vaccine still works? Why shouldn't it work? Is there a risk it won't? What are you not telling us?" . Most of the time the media is on a hiding to nothing.
We have 3 hospitals in a hub in East Kent and I have an appointment at the one in Canterbury on Friday where I might have surgery/treatment while I'm there for an emergency appointment, and i believe they keep the Covid patients at the other two hospitals.
Very true. The one just in my example is probably not the best example, I'll give you that. Even so, when I read it at the time, it stood out. I guess for me, it's a thing that has been built up gradually over the last few years, so not only in relations to this matter. Personally fed up with it, but yeah, it's a bigger question, and one that probably not best to get started on here.![]()