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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Leftitshort said:
More work places open, because they realise if they shut the doors this time, they won’t open again. it’s not a case of furlough covering wages, what about lost income
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Also a lot more industries have classes themselves key workers
 
SaintHacker said:
They all managed OK back in the spring, why is this ti,e round any different? And no they can't furlough their workers, because they have so may children in they need a full staff coverage to legally remain open.
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Back in spring how many more people were on furlough? Most of the country was put on furlough - it was only the key workers still in.

Both my wife and I had to take a lot of holiday to look the daughter as we were both still working . The nursery could have stayed open for key workers only but it wasn’t financially viable - we still paid a percentage of our fees to help them out.

This time many more people are still continuing to work and more kids into nursery helps them stay financially viable.
 
I'm agreeing with LP I need to take a break and look in the mirror something's off today ?
 
Leftitshort said:
working whilst home schooling! It’s impossible to do, especially from a final salary pension ivory tower.
How are my kids going to suffer, and those at exam age in future years because of this gap in their education?
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We are all in this together though, people are suffering at every age, every day.

The sooner we beat this thing the sooner we can rectify some of the issues.

The sooner we beat it, the sooner we can look at the kids.

The sooner we beat it, the more time the kids will have in their lives and more people to share it with.
 
Leftitshort said:
I’m lucky I can work from home, our production sites can’t. If they’re closed I have no med/long term work.
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My mates company her warehouse and delivery team have been classes key workers

Yet they won't let sales and admin work from home ...

Even tho they can

Companies like this need addressing
 
Leftitshort said:
working whilst home schooling! It’s impossible to do, especially from a final salary pension ivory tower.
How are my kids going to suffer, and those at exam age in future years because of this gap in their education?
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What ? I’m not sure what’s that about ?
 
pauljames87 said:
How do you know their not in support bubbles or live together?

Home base is DIY that's open

Halfords is car essienals and bikes which they want us to use more to avoid public transport

Stop looking for outrage.
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Bottom line on this. Are we or are we not concerned about the number of people going to stores and therefore risking infection by, or of, others?

Whether an individual considers their visit to a store 'essential' is a separate question. At present there are many stores currently open that were not previously open - or which were open they had very significant access control in place. If we could not visit these stores as normal Lockdown #1 and we coped, then I wonder on what grounds do visits to them now become essential.

On Halfords. Yes previously our local Halfords was open - but you had to queue outside. You had to know pretty much exactly what you wanted as an assistant would take your order at the door (with you remaining outside) and go get it for you. You could not just roll-up and go in as I can do today if I so choose.
 
pauldj42 said:
We are all in this together though, people are suffering at every age, every day.

The sooner we beat this thing the sooner we can rectify some of the issues.

The sooner we beat it, the sooner we can look at the kids.

The sooner we beat it, the more time the kids will have in their lives and more people to share it with.
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Agreed. There’s no alternative currently......but I see a lot on here from the older demographic asking for schools to be shut, nursery’s to be closed, work to be stopped. Is there really an awareness of what this could cause? Not only mortgaging ourselves economically but also educationally. I still believe there is mileage in an extension of shielding but that ship may have sailed
 
Kaz said:
I think schools and nurseries should be closed except for kids of "real" (for lack of a better word) key workers.

For everyone else, furlough should be there for people to take if needed to look after and/or home school their kids even if they'd otherwise be able to WFH and not be eligible. Preferably allow it to be split between parents so they can work part-time and furlough the rest so they can share the responsibility.

There's not a good solution to cover all the angles, unfortunately.
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Unions have said this should happen but has been ignored

It is an option
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Based on my entirely unscientific survey of walking the dog regularly, in lockdown 1 in spring the numbers out walking that never went out before was off the scale. Families were out in full, not just mum and dad. This time around it is back to us dog walkers and the occasional older couple who I see taking a regular walk. The fair weather walkers have largely disappeared. The weather has a lot to do with this of course but equally the novelty has long since worn off.

I think, like you, if the nation has maintained last April / May levels of outdoor walking, running, cycling then we would be better for it.
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We have a large influx of new years resolution joggers it seems, gone from 0-1 per dog walk pre xmas to 4 or 5 minimum this last few days. Lets see how long they last :)
 
Kaz said:
I think schools and nurseries should be closed except for kids of "real" (for lack of a better word) key workers.

For everyone else, furlough should be there for people to take if needed to look after and/or home school their kids even if they'd otherwise be able to WFH and not be eligible. Preferably allow it to be split between parents so they can work part-time and furlough the rest so they can share the responsibility.

There's not a good solution to cover all the angles, unfortunately.
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Agree, floodgates for 'key workers' has been opened and I don't really blame anyone for taking advantage, I'd be lying if I wouldn't be tempted if there was a way of either of us being classed as such.

Fortunately for us my wife's company have agreed to furlough her for an initial period of 4 weeks so she can take over the home schooling. Even if they then recall her at the end of that period it will have taken a huge amount of pressure off us and we'll just cobble something together for the remaining period.
 
Kaz said:
I think schools and nurseries should be closed except for kids of "real" (for lack of a better word) key workers.

For everyone else, furlough should be there for people to take if needed to look after and/or home school their kids even if they'd otherwise be able to WFH and not be eligible. Preferably allow it to be split between parents so they can work part-time and furlough the rest so they can share the responsibility.

There's not a good solution to cover all the angles, unfortunately.
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The problem is nursery’s aren’t financially viable to be open just for a small amount , that was part of the issue back in March when they could have stayed open - they need a specific amount to ensure they can keep open - if they can’t then the children of those front line and key workers will be at home - it’s a vicious circle

I also think we need to take a step back as well and see the reaction from the restrictions that were only put in place 6 days ago - I think a lot are reacting to the recent numbers
 
I also think that part of the issue with places being open is that, at the beginning of the first lockdown, companies did not have a plan nor the facilities in place for social distancing and so many opted not to open even though they could. Skip on a number of months and they are all set up to run within the regulations and so are now open. Certainly I think that a few places opted not to open in the first lockdown due to this (and also because we had no idea how long this would run for) and have opened this time because they are set up to operate in these conditions.
 
With such an interlinked supply chain now it is very hard to define key workers. It sounds obvious, it can be tricky.

The partner of a woman at work works in a cardbaord box factory in the warehouse. Some of the boxes go to food production factories so he is classed as a key worker. Anyone could do his job, it is unskilled, but he gets lumped in as key. It's a bit like the game, 6 degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon. If people really pushed it most could claim key worker status if they wanted to.
 
I'm one who do insist on getting my daily exercise outdoors, despite not exercising that much at this time last year. I will not sit inside a 1 bedroom flat for 8-10 weeks straight besides going to the shop which is a 30 sec walk from the flat. I do not drive anywhere to exercise, I do not speak to anyone and I do not get close to anyone when I go for my daily walk or run. If anyone thinks that selfish, well so be it.
 
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