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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Imurg said:
Then it pains me even more:oops:
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A good pal of mine in Italy, his wife was told “ there’s a couple of things we can try but if that don’t work, sorry but we have done our best and someone else will need the bed”. She was convinced he was going to die. Fortunately at the moment he is pulling through. Looks like long days of physio Ahead.
 
Just spoke to my mate, his wife is a nurse on mat leave presently. She volunteered to go back early to help with vaccinations and got told thanks but no thanks.

NHS Scotland seem to think they have this under their control. Deluded fools, the lot of them.
 
Good words from Proff Whitty this morning

The numbers we are seeing now are the ones from over Xmas - we all expected the numbers to be high so it shouldn’t be a surprise - even more so with the ramp up in testing

Lockdown started 6 days ago - that will have an affect on the numbers just as the vaccine centres starting this week will also help matters , it was always going to be a hard Jan for us because of the weather helping the virus be passed round along with this new strain going around quicker but it’s not stronger.

And doctors have been playing god for decades - that’s not a new thing.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Good words from Proff Whitty this morning

The numbers we are seeing now are the ones from over Xmas - we all expected the numbers to be high so it shouldn’t be a surprise - even more so with the ramp up in testing

Lockdown started 6 days ago - that will have an affect on the numbers just as the vaccine centres starting this week will also help matters , it was always going to be a hard Jan for us because of the weather helping the virus be passed round along with this new strain going around quicker but it’s not stronger.

And doctors have been playing god for decades - that’s not a new thing.
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I thought as much. We aren't even seeing the numbers for last week yet so increasing any measures well any drastically would be a bit soon. Have to give it time to see if the measures are working

If this Is Xmas then new year's is next week's numbers and end of Jan we will see the school numbers
 
If I closed my business right now then I would not have a feasible business to come back to. My customers, mostly European, would have to find alternatives to keep them going. So we stay open. We have not shut at any stage but we have distancing measures in place. Only 4 staff but none of us have, as far as we know, contracted the virus. Follow the advice, follow good practice and it is possible to keep going. If we, and others, do not then who is left to pay taxes, now and going forwards?

Pet food. I'm struggling to believe this is a discussion point but I will be going to Pets at Home tonight to buy dog food. She has been on the same brand for 10 years and my wife would not have her changing now, upset stomachs etc. My local branch is 100 times more secure than the supermarkets. They still have a one way system in place, far fewer people in the shop, I don't have to walk 100 meters to get the item I want.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
If I closed my business right now then I would not have a feasible business to come back to. My customers, mostly European, would have to find alternatives to keep them going. So we stay open. We have not shut at any stage but we have distancing measures in place. Only 4 staff but none of us have, as far as we know, contracted the virus. Follow the advice, follow good practice and it is possible to keep going. If we, and others, do not then who is left to pay taxes, now and going forwards?

Pet food. I'm struggling to believe this is a discussion point but I will be going to Pets at Home tonight to buy dog food. She has been on the same brand for 10 years and my wife would not have her changing now, upset stomachs etc. My local branch is 100 times more secure than the supermarkets. They still have a one way system in place, far fewer people in the shop, I don't have to walk 100 meters to get the item I want.
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Careful mate, next we’ll have someone asking if pets are essential. Just imagine how trips outside would of been saved if we’ve had all pets put down at the beginning of the pandemic.;)
 
pauljames87 said:
Reports that we may increase lockdown restrictions

Nurseries closed
Only allowed out once a week
No exercise with other households
No support bubbles

If your only allowed out once a week how you going to exercise with other households? Lol unless that's your one trip out

This would kill my wife's mental state off for sure so would worry about the countries mental health with the bottom 3. Top one well ? is what it is

I don't question it though. It's been a week. How long before we see the numbers from closing schools? Thought we were seeing new year's eve numbers atm
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It seems as though we are experiencing what has become the 'norm', the government start leaking details of any new restrictions around 36/48 hours before it is officially announced, assume this is to give the general public the chance to get any anger/frustration etc out of their system. The only thing I would add to the above list is apparently masks are to be required in all outdoor spaces.

Must admit I cannot see the 'allowed out once a week' working, even those who have been following the guidelines will struggle to follow that especially those living in flats etc with younger children/pets. The tighter restrictions have to be realistic and I don't think that one is.
 
pauldj42 said:
Careful mate, next we’ll be asking if pets are essential. Just imagine how trips outside would of been saved if we had all pets put down at the beginning of the pandemic.;)
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I think an outbreak of hysteria is happening right now, whipped up by the media. People need to take a few deep breaths, take a step back and compose themselves. I'm well aware of the numbers etc but people are losing the plot.
 
road2ruin said:
It seems as though we are experiencing what has become the 'norm', the government start leaking details of any new restrictions around 36/48 hours before it is officially announced, assume this is to give the general public the chance to get any anger/frustration etc out of their system. The only thing I would add to the above list is apparently masks are to be required in all outdoor spaces.

Must admit I cannot see the 'allowed out once a week' working, even those who have been following the guidelines will struggle to follow that especially those living in flats etc with younger children/pets. The tighter restrictions have to be realistic and I don't think that one is.
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Closing nurseries on the list above is about the only one that makes any sense

However unlike schools if they close they will need funding to stay afloat until people need them again otherwise we just walking into a further crisis down the line
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I think an outbreak of hysteria is happening right now, whipped up by the media. People need to take a few deep breaths, take a step back and compose themselves. I'm well aware of the numbers etc but people are losing the plot.
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Or ban the media lol

One point was people going to shops daily to buy a paper

Ditch the papers

Job done lol
 
Ethan said:
The virus doesn't know if it is in a church or a supermarket. People sitting relatively static for an hour indoors is a recipe for transmission. It was reported yesterday on the BBC that mass worship adds 0.1 to the R-value. That means more cases transmitting unnecessarily to others. I am sure your God will forgive you if you worship him from home.
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Indeed - as I noted - my church has been closed throughout other than for a few Sundays in October when things seemed OK and we were allowed. Whilst collective worship is clearly very important to any congregation - we recognise that it is not essential - and hence though we could be open we have decided to remain closed to minimise the risk to our congregation (especially given the preponderance of more elderly we have) and also the wider community.
 
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pauljames87 said:
Closing nurseries on the list above is about the only one that makes any sense

However unlike schools if they close they will need funding to stay afloat until people need them again otherwise we just walking into a further crisis down the line
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Why are people reacting to “rumours” and “reports”

The Chief Medical has stated what’s happening , why would they suddenly add more restrictions when the ones they applied 6 days ago havent even taken affect

Prof Whitty has already said why they kept nurseries open amongst other things

Why are people suddenly started to get all hysterical , nothing has changed over the past week. Once again the media are getting people wound up

Why are they not focusing on all those vaccine centres that start this week
 
pauljames87 said:
Churches have the luxury of deciding themselves if they can open
Their congregation will accept it and still support them
If law let's pet stores open and they decide not to the gov will provide no help to them

The guidelines are the problem in the main not the people

Yes in some cases the people are just stupid and useless but not all
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Maybe. However as Chris Whitty repeatedly emphasised this morning. We should be staying at home unless we have to go out for essential needs or a short period of exercise. We should not be looking at the rules as defining what we can do - for us then to be able to decide what we would like to leave home to do within these limits.

At the moment it appears to me that many ask themselves - what can I do, rather than what do I absolutely need to do. As Whitty said - as far as is at all possible what I absolutely need to do at the moment is to stay at home.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Why are people reacting to “rumours” and “reports”

The Chief Medical has stated what’s happening , why would they suddenly add more restrictions when the ones they applied 6 days ago havent even taken affect

Prof Whitty has already said why they kept nurseries open amongst other things

Why are people suddenly started to get all hysterical , nothing has changed over the past week. Once again the media are getting people wound up

Why are they not focusing on all those vaccine centres that start this week
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Simple newspaper reports from the Tory graph, daily hate and other papers

Media should only report facts not rumour
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Maybe. However as Chris Whitty repeatedly emphasised this morning. We should be staying at home unless we have to go out for essential needs or a short period of exercise. We should not be looking at the rules as defining what we can do - for us then to be able to decide what we would like to leave home to do within these limits.

At the moment it appears to me that many ask themselves - what can I do, rather than what do I absolutely need to do. As Whitty said - as far as is at all possible what I absolutely need to do at the moment is to stay at home.
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Can you actually blame people? You might be ok in your world right now but your a different stage of life from many of those affected

Some are stuck working from home throughout and getting no break from the 4 walls of their house

The lucky ones have a study or spare room to turn into a home office. These suit home working but some are flat sharing or just living alone and working on the kitchen table without a break from anything

Much like a prison .. which I'm sure some people are feeling like ATM

I consider myself lucky I'm working as normal as I can't work from home. Never thought going to work would be a luxury

Isn't it judge not lest ye be judged?
 
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