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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Aligns with what the reporter found - 10 out of 14 (ITU/ICU?) wards full of Covid patients. Yet a passer-bye called out that the hospital was empty...yeh...:mad:
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I hadn't seen the news clip, just watched it as mrs wedge sent it to me earlier - she's a nurse in MK General. It's all a bit worrying really.

ColchesterFC said:
Should've taken the passerby in for a tour of the Covid ward. Obviously wouldn't have needed any PPE as the wards would all have been empty.
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That was exactly my thought, take him in without his mask and get him to go into the ward and hold hands with one or more of the Covid patients. Bet he wouldn't do it.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Yes they could. Without any difficulty. Well most certainly she could. They are far from penniless and got multiple grants first time round. Just simply pointing out that I fear many parents will expect schools to do more than they should have to do. If we are all going to pull together we might all have to make some quite significant sacrifices. Am I being too judgemental - certainly yes - but we know them too well...?
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If he is a tradesman he might be halfway through a job for a disabled person putting a new shower / kitchen in.
If he stopped work now to mind the kids, that person would not have a bathroom / kitchen/ heating???
So not everything is black and white.
Some people play the system that’s true you are correct.
 
ColchesterFC said:
That must be your Christian nature making you more compassionate than me. They wouldn't have been offered PPE by me. ?
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LOL - 'unfortunately' ;) my Christian nature means that I have to pray for that passer-bye - pray that he 'sees the light' on the virus before it sees to him...and through him infects those close to him
 
clubchamp98 said:
If he is a tradesman he might be halfway through a job for a disabled person putting a new shower / kitchen in.
If he stopped work now to mind the kids, that person would not have a bathroom / kitchen/ heating???
So not everything is black and white.
Some people play the system that’s true you are correct.
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All if this could be very true

My point was simply in support of the post where all of a sudden there were 140 children of key workers at school...when previously there were many fewer.

I suspect that the explanation for the majority of parents is simply that they need government support if they are going to take time off work to provide home care and schooling for their children. And maybe that includes out friends.
 
Why not take some 'social influencers' into Covid wards. PPE up, obviously, and let them report what they see on Instagram, etc.
Too much reporting is done in the conventional news, which is read, and believed (or not), by a fairly small group. Not sure all these covid deniers really look at the BBC, or read the papers.
Bung in some Z list influences, show them the true picture, let them post some video, show some pictures, and actually do something useful for once.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
All if this could be very true

My point was simply in support of the post where all of a sudden there were 140 children of key workers at school...when previously there were many fewer.

I suspect that the explanation for the majority of parents is simply that they need government support if they are going to take time off work to provide home care and schooling for their children. And maybe that includes out friends.
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Yes I know where you were coming from, my daughters a teacher.
I see it as if the lad needs to work he needs to work.
We all need to pull together and not stress over other people.
 
murphthemog said:
Why not take some 'social influencers' into Covid wards. PPE up, obviously, and let them report what they see on Instagram, etc.
Too much reporting is done in the conventional news, which is read, and believed (or not), by a fairly small group. Not sure all these covid deniers really look at the BBC, or read the papers.
Bung in some Z list influences, show them the true picture, let them post some video, show some pictures, and actually do something useful for once.
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That’s a very good idea.
Maybe put one in the government PR spin machine to see what it’s really like.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Just had my first Pfizer jab so I am now immortal. Thats how it works right?
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You will get a super power of sorts, you just don't know which one. If was open to request too many people would ask to single putt from 6ft so they are having to keep it random. Annoyingly that could mean a non golfer gets this power and never realises. Luck of the draw.

Immortal, :rolleyes:, some people just don't know anything............:LOL:
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
What I said to my Mrs - they should have dragged/invited the passer-bye to don some PPE and have a look inside...

Meanwhile 1:50 of us have the virus...that's just a number - a ratio - and it seems not too bad - it seems OK - until I thought about what that actually meant in respect of transmission. And as I was walking back from town yesterday evening with my one bag of essential shopping - I thought of my wife's aunt ill with covid - had the thought that I actually could catch this, and I could get very ill - and I really didn't like those thoughts one little bit.
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Or you could get it and have really mild symptoms like I did. I’m not dismissing this at all, a work colleague is really poorly currently, but if you do get this it’s not a death sentence in the majority of cases. I think it’s important to keep some perspective.
 
murphthemog said:
Why not take some 'social influencers' into Covid wards. PPE up, obviously, and let them report what they see on Instagram, etc.
Too much reporting is done in the conventional news, which is read, and believed (or not), by a fairly small group. Not sure all these covid deniers really look at the BBC, or read the papers.
Bung in some Z list influences, show them the true picture, let them post some video, show some pictures, and actually do something useful for once.
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The problem that the BBC have is that they have to give equal weight to the views of 'non-believers' as they have to give to that of 'believers'. So we get the facts and explanations of scientists/epidemiologists/experts being 'balanced' by the thoughts of non-believers who base their views on something they'd read on the grannies Facebook feed - or that they'd concluded by not seeing chaos outside such as MK General (reflecting back to post #13,604)
 
Leftitshort said:
Or you could get it and have really mild symptoms like I did. I’m not dismissing this at all, a work colleague is really poorly currently, but if you do get this it’s not a death sentence in the majority of cases. I think it’s important to keep some perspective.
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Indeed - but my knowledge of that did not stop the thoughts popping into my head - as the illness suddenly was much closer to home with my wife's aunt. Yes I can put the thoughts aside - but when the rolling rate for our council ward is 750 and 2miles in almost any direction it is well over 1000... I cannot ignore my thoughts.
 
Leftitshort said:
Or you could get it and have really mild symptoms like I did. I’m not dismissing this at all, a work colleague is really poorly currently, but if you do get this it’s not a death sentence in the majority of cases. I think it’s important to keep some perspective.
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Isn't that a bit like a reporter in WW1 taking a photo of an Army Storeman stacking blankets a mile behind the front line to portray what life is like for the Tommies,
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
The problem that the BBC have is that they have to give equal weight to the views of 'non-believers' as they have to give to that of 'believers'. So we get the facts and explanations of scientists/epidemiologists/experts being 'balanced' by the thoughts of non-believers who base their views on something they'd read on the grannies Facebook feed - or that they'd concluded by not seeing chaos outside such as MK General (reflecting back to post #13,604)
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I dont see the BBC extolling the views of the flat earth society, no, they are not required to EVENLY balance arguments where one side is clearly a VERY minor view, despite how biased the BBC has become .
 
Tashyboy said:
unfortunately he cannot save everyone, and rather than focus on those that he and others in the NHS could not save. He needs to look at the ones that are sat at home with there loved ones because of him and others. He needs to look at those that can walk with there children, the ones who will get to see there kids grow up and get married. The ones at are thankful because of his skills. Slowly slowly the light at the end of the tunnel is becoming brighter. Above all, he needs to talk to someone. Unfortunately we don’t choose the time and place when people like him want to open up.
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There is a special mentality and attitude needed to work in an area where the patients often do badly. I remember as a late stage medical student being interested in paediatrics and oncology, but when it came to working with kids who were dying, I realised I just didn't have that mentality.

I have nothing but admiration and respect for those who do, and who can find little or big successes amongst the bad stuff. Tell your mate he is doing a vital (literally) job and in years to come when people ask 'What did you do during the first Covid pandemic?', he can tell them he was on the front line saving lives.
 
Leftitshort said:
Or you could get it and have really mild symptoms like I did. I’m not dismissing this at all, a work colleague is really poorly currently, but if you do get this it’s not a death sentence in the majority of cases. I think it’s important to keep some perspective.
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Have the scientists explained why this is the case?
Is it still the amount of virus you inhale are exposed to or just luck.?
 
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