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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Leftitshort said:
Not really, to carry on with the war analogies. it’s a bit like being part of a light skirmish, getting off without a wound, but recognising that the battle of the Somme was serious. The way it’s reported & the way it’s spoken about on here you would be forgiven in thinking that it’s a death sentence....it’s not.
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Depends, to a very large extent, on how old you are. I suspect you are not old?
 
Not sure if this should go in the random irritation thread

But the start of the clap for the NHS is bringing back clap for hero's

Like it was patronising enough the first time round

Some idiot will let of fireworks aswell
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Depends, to a very large extent, on how old you are. I suspect you are not old?
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Absolutely!

I dont want to mix with people who are mixing with others when 1 in 50 have Covid and theres a much greater chance of someone I contact with, having it. In the summer I could have gone to a football game with 50,0000 spectators and stood little risk of catching the virus.
 
pauljames87 said:
Not sure if this should go in the random irritation thread

But the start of the clap for the NHS is bringing back clap for hero's

Like it was patronising enough the first time round

Some idiot will let of fireworks aswell
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Judging by what I've seen the last couple of days there will be no one home to clap on their doorsteps!
 
Swinglowandslow said:
The unfortunate result about that (non) action is that it does nothing to stop his behaviour. And, although not specified , it is certain that with such an attitude his behaviour will in no way be such as to stop the virus spread.
He will go on behaving in such a way as will spread the virus, won't he?
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I didn't say that a wee prayer for him from me is the only action I might take :)
 
SaintHacker said:
Judging by what I've seen the last couple of days there will be no one home to clap on their doorsteps!
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It's just stupid .. key workers find it patronising

Home schoolers will be too busy trying to do the rest round the house whilst kids are in bed to notice everyone clapping for them.. apart from when the idiot at number 5 let's off fireworks and wakes the kids up

And those who buisness might fail because of this will find it great how the claps are now paying for their bills

Please just no.
 
pauljames87 said:
I heard a good one other day Ethan..

If someone gave you a bag of 1000 jelly beans and said 1 of them would kill you.. you would avoid the jelly beans!
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The public perception of risk has always been weird. Familiar risks are blithely ignored, but smaller risks associated with something new or unusual are over-reacted to.
 
Leftitshort said:
Not really, to carry on with the war analogies. it’s a bit like being part of a light skirmish, getting off without a wound, but recognising that the battle of the Somme was serious. The way it’s reported & the way it’s spoken about on here you would be forgiven in thinking that it’s a death sentence....it’s not.
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As a little aside given talk of war...

I'm reading Parade's End at the moment - written contemporaneous with the end of WW1 and the few years soon after. Suggests that the Tommies in the trenches were pretty pragmatic about being blown to bits by shelling when they heard the strafe start as softening up before a German advance - or getting mown down when themselves advancing. They could see and hear the danger but there was nowhere to go, nothing they could do. The danger was too widespread.

What it seems was feared when in the open in the trenches was when things were quiet and unthreatening - because the Tommy knew that at any moment a sniper could have him in his sights and was in the process of pulling the trigger. And though he knew he could just disappear down a communication trench to relative safety - that way was court martial and the firing squad. And so it was the great fear was that instant death was possible at any moment from the silent killer...when perhaps risk was at it lowest.

I guess the former is where we just get on with things out there as best we can - and accept the risk; the latter is perhaps when we are indoors, sheltering and apparently safe.

Interestingly as well reference is made to the deadly pandemic tearing through the German trenches...worse than the UK lines - and the hesitancy over taking German prisoners given the risk of them bringing the infection to the Tommies.
 
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pauljames87 said:
It's just stupid .. key workers find it patronising

Home schoolers will be too busy trying to do the rest round the house whilst kids are in bed to notice everyone clapping for them.. apart from when the idiot at number 5 let's off fireworks and wakes the kids up

And those who buisness might fail because of this will find it great how the claps are now paying for their bills

Please just no.
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Please No...I can hear the guy down the road practicing that bloody saxophone already...:mad:
 
Leftitshort said:
I’m not belittling it at all. You could be unlucky and get some complications or you could have underlying health conditions and it become very serious very quickly. However, people getting it, albeit mildly and then recovering isn’t news. The fella I was replying to was mulling over the seriousness of the disease. Statistically, underlying health dependent, it’s a long way from a death sentence.
I won’t compare it to the flu as I believe this to be disingenuous but it’s also not the bubonic plague.
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No, it isn't the bubonic plague, although most people who get that are easily treated these days.

The emphasis on death with Covid unbalances an assessment of the harm, though. Many people get a mildly unpleasant viral illness which doesn't need medical attention, let along hospital, but a significant number get this long Covid syndrome, which has a number of potentially long lasting complications. I think we are going to see a bunch of longer term effects from the whole body inflammatory effects in some people, everything from infertility to cognitive effects to liver and kidney problems. There have been reports of high incidence of childhood onset of Type 1 Diabetes in areas with outbreaks, presumably from either immune activation or direct pancreatic damage. it is a nasty disease, much worse than seasonal flu.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Depends, to a very large extent, on how old you are. I suspect you are not old?
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Yep I get that. I’m not exactly young but it’s all relative. Young compared to the average demographic at the golf club. I’m not flat earther, but there is a balance to be struck between living in absolute fear and realising that statistically you’ll probably be ok. In the balance it’s better to stay safe, wear masks, social distance and probably lockdown, I get that. But there should be a counter narrative to the death, doom and end of the world scenarios. That’s just not healthy.
 
pauljames87 said:
It's just stupid .. key workers find it patronising

Home schoolers will be too busy trying to do the rest round the house whilst kids are in bed to notice everyone clapping for them.. apart from when the idiot at number 5 let's off fireworks and wakes the kids up

And those who buisness might fail because of this will find it great how the claps are now paying for their bills

Please just no.
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It was nice and appreciated at first - and indeed for a quite a while as the initial battle was fought against an unknown enemy. But this has now gone on too long with much of the blame being placed in the lap of the public - so for the public to applaud now - well many health and care workers might well not be quite so appreciative.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
It was nice and appreciated at first - and indeed for a quite a while as the initial battle was fought against an unknown enemy. But this has now gone on too long with much of the blame being placed in the lap of the public - so for the public to applaud now - well many health and care workers might well not be quite so appreciative.
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In march it was nice

It was well intentioned

However it got political

Then the creater said it had run it course I can't believe she thinks it's a good idea to bring it back!!!!!!!
 
Imurg said:
Please No...I can hear the guy down the road practicing that bloody saxophone already...:mad:
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A great sadness in our road is the elderly Irish gentleman (an ex-Army Bandsman) who, sitting on his doorstep, gave the street a short clarinet and fiddle 'concert' for the heath workers a few sunny evenings through last spring/summer during lockdown. The lovely chap died on the 23rd December after just a two week illness. A small group of us from the road - fully socially distanced and masked up - stood in the street outside his home and sang Danny Boy and a few carols on Christmas Eve for his wife and visiting two daughters.
 
pauljames87 said:
In march it was nice

It was well intentioned

However it got political

Then the creater said it had run it course I can't believe she thinks it's a good idea to bring it back!!!!!!!
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It wasn’t that it just got political it was the feeling that you should be doing it because the rest of your road is. We moved to a new home 6 weeks ago and my wife is already saying we’ll have to get involved if the road does otherwise we’ll be black marked before we’ve even met everyone!!

In terms of the creator I can only assume she wanted a second 15 minutes of fame.
 
Very powerful piece from University College in London on BBC news. Echoes very much what I've been seeing and fear a lot of our nurses are going to burn out soon. It isn't just those of course and doctors are struggling, both those on rotation, for whom it's a baptism of fire and the senior doctors and consultants. We are lucky and our matron and management are being very proactive and the trust board are ensuring ICU is a priority. We are at the point of further escalation into theatres tomorrow.
 
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