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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Another 57k today...
I know we're doing a lot of testing but to put the numbers into perspective we've put on 100k more cases in the last week than Japan have had from the start...
 
This was never a possibility for the UK! While there was a 'lockdown' in NZ, it would be better described as 'Lockout' - something totally unfeasible for UK!

Perhaps but look at Japan and S Korea, both large populations and large economies, busy airport hubs, but a compliant population that are more used to dealing with epidemics and mask wearing. Numbers are incredibly low. Lockdown is not even permitted in Japan.
The covid deniers here are everywhere including influential social media 'personalities', louder than ever :rolleyes:. Cant really mention govt except to say groundless optimism is not a strategy.
 
Perhaps but look at Japan and S Korea, both large populations and large economies, busy airport hubs, but a compliant population that are more used to dealing with epidemics and mask wearing. Numbers are incredibly low. Lockdown is not even permitted in Japan.
The covid deniers here are everywhere including influential social media 'personalities', louder than ever :rolleyes:. Cant really mention govt except to say groundless optimism is not a strategy.
In the aftermath of all this we really need to send a team of people across to those two countries to see how they handled this. They are well used to handling SARS scares and that has obviously stood them in good stead.
 
Perhaps but look at Japan and S Korea, both large populations and large economies, busy airport hubs, but a compliant population that are more used to dealing with epidemics and mask wearing. Numbers are incredibly low. Lockdown is not even permitted in Japan.
The covid deniers here are everywhere including influential social media 'personalities', louder than ever :rolleyes:. Cant really mention govt except to say groundless optimism is not a strategy.

And a very different approach to people arriving from abroad....

 
Perhaps but look at Japan and S Korea, both large populations and large economies, busy airport hubs, but a compliant population that are more used to dealing with epidemics and mask wearing. Numbers are incredibly low. Lockdown is not even permitted in Japan.
The covid deniers here are everywhere including influential social media 'personalities', louder than ever :rolleyes:. Cant really mention govt except to say groundless optimism is not a strategy.

The amount of data that test track and trace that was accepted and available to S Korea would never have been stood for by the British public. Many can’t be bothered to stick or comply with simple rules. Different cultures which most probably counts for some of it.
 
Perhaps but look at Japan and S Korea, both large populations and large economies, busy airport hubs, but a compliant population that are more used to dealing with epidemics and mask wearing. Numbers are incredibly low. Lockdown is not even permitted in Japan.
The covid deniers here are everywhere including influential social media 'personalities', louder than ever :rolleyes:. Cant really mention govt except to say groundless optimism is not a strategy.
I read an article that said although Japan has fared well in the pandemic it's not clear why as they have not been particularly good at handling measures. My experience of Japanese people is they are more likely to abide by rules than we are, German people are also more like this.
 
The amount of data that test track and trace that was accepted and available to S Korea would never have been stood for by the British public. Many can’t be bothered to stick or comply with simple rules. Different cultures which most probably counts for some of it.

The amount of data google/facebook/apple have on everyone here is astounding.

I think it's more the culture.
 
I can’t vouch for the legitimacy of these figures, which I have just seen on the Sky News app. But it really highlights that age would seem to be by far and away the biggest risk factor.
 

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In the aftermath of all this we really need to send a team of people across to those two countries to see how they handled this. They are well used to handling SARS scares and that has obviously stood them in good stead.

The answer is simple. They are paranoid about it. Go to an airport when things return to normal and watch any Japanese travellers, they're easy to spot they wear masks, all the time. I remember driving a coach to Heathrow pre-lockdown and having a little chuckle at a Japanese girl who pretty much put on a full hazmat outfit before she got on the coach. I wonder who's laughing now?:unsure:
 
Perhaps but look at Japan and S Korea, both large populations and large economies, busy airport hubs, but a compliant population that are more used to dealing with epidemics and mask wearing. Numbers are incredibly low. Lockdown is not even permitted in Japan.
The covid deniers here are everywhere including influential social media 'personalities', louder than ever :rolleyes:. Cant really mention govt except to say groundless optimism is not a strategy.
Completely different strategies! And the highlighted bit is likely the key! Just consider the number of (supposedly sensible) golfers blatantly breaking instructions!
BTW. My post was purely about the difference between NZ's and UK's situation - not whether either (or Japan's or South Korea's) was 'better'!
 
I read an article that said although Japan has fared well in the pandemic it's not clear why as they have not been particularly good at handling measures. My experience of Japanese people is they are more likely to abide by rules than we are, German people are also more like this.
Do you think they are also healthier into older age than us ? Obesity diet etc seems better. No facts on that, just an inkling.
Completely different strategies! And the highlighted bit is likely the key! Just consider the number of (supposedly sensible) golfers blatantly breaking instructions!
BTW. My post was purely about the difference between NZ's and UK's situation - not whether either (or Japan's or South Korea's) was 'better'!

I know but still relevant to general discussion as to why some areas do much better than others I think. UK has done awfully with worse to come shortly but little and close Isle of Man has done really really well. That's down to strong leadership as well as an advantageous small island thing.
 
Do you think they are also healthier into older age than us ? Obesity diet etc seems better. No facts on that, just an inkling.

Older Japanese people tend to be slim and eat a healther diet. Not so sure about young people, they seem to enjoy a more western lifestyle and you see quite a lot of them obese. When I used to visit some years ago it was quite normal to see people wearing masks, not sure if it was for protection against germs or the traffic polution which was quite bad, their cities are very big and congested.
 
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Another example yesterday of the MSM putting out scare stories which simply isn’t helpful. The BBC gave air time to a nursing matron (Laura Duffel) at Kings College London. She immediately caused panic by claiming that ‘her hospital has ‘a whole ward’ full of children with acute Covid and that her colleagues in other Trusts are in the same position.’ This was rapidly called out by numerous paediatricians across London as being completely untrue. They stopped short of calling her a liar.

My question is how the BBC can allow someone on to say something like this without doing a bit of fact checking first. They wouldn’t allow an out and out Covid denier on yet they do allow this. Parents are already anxious about sending their children back to school and social media went into overdrive on the back of this with people claiming you could effectively be sending your child to their deaths by doing so.
 
Parts of Japan are known for their longevity. Seems to be a combination of genetics, healthy active lifestyle in later life, good diet and strong social circles.
My MiL had a 2 week exchange with a Japanese family a good few years ago, part of a church thing. Diet is much healthier but they have a real aversion to milk and other calcium rich foods. Apparently they have a big problem with bone strength and related issues in later years. Nearly ideal but could do with a little tweak.
 
I fear that I heard a bit too much ‘we have to wait and see’ from the PM this morning. That’s not getting ahead of the curve...it’s playing catch up...

For instance he tells us that there is most likely going to be tougher restrictions for many if not all of us, and that school closures will increase, and that most of us accept that likelihood - so why not just apply the restrictions and closures now?

Anyway - all I can continue to do is keep my own side of the street clean as best I can
 
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